Weird G string sitar noise

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  1. Platypus

    Platypus not in rivers, but in drops Supporting Member

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    So I've read about this before but never had it happen before.. recently restrung Jazzmaster with flatwound 11's and the G string has a very weird harmonic dissonance to it. If you play the strings past the nut they're mostly muted but the G string rings out a crazy harmonic note when played past the nut and you can hear it when you're fretting closer to the nut on the actual fretboard. It doesn't seem to be as apparent the closer you are to the bridge.

    Never did this before I put the flatwounds on.. is it possible that it's caused by the string or is something else going on here? (saddle height, etc)
     
  2. Structo

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    Probably the nut slot.
     
  3. Platypus

    Platypus not in rivers, but in drops Supporting Member

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    Thanks, can you go into more detail
     
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    if it's happening when you fret a note, it's not the nut slot. it's probably a burr at the bridge saddle or the string is bad. the fact that it would change or be less apparent as you fret up the neck isn't surprising given the pitch change would change whatever induced resonance is going on.
     
  5. Platypus

    Platypus not in rivers, but in drops Supporting Member

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    It happens when I fret..
     
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    forgot to mention it could be a high fret, but that's usually not a sitar sound so much... :)
     
  7. trower

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    Check your last few frets, sounds like what my Ibanez was doing. It was due to a change in string gauge and I pulled all the strings off at once which I don't usually do. I adjusted the neck and it was fine...but also check for burrs mentioned as well.
     
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    Ive had this happen before. Its a bad string.
     
  9. Platypus

    Platypus not in rivers, but in drops Supporting Member

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    Well apparently it's the lack of downward pressure on the string so my tech suggested a string tree for it. I'm weary to do this as if I don't like it I'm left with a hole in my guitar. He is going to try and tight wrap the string to see if he can get enough pressure on it.

    Anyone have experience with adding a string tree? Should I go down this road or avoid it?
     
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    If it turns out to be a problem you can replace the tuners with a set of staggered height model. This would provide the necessary downforce and eliminate the need for any strin trees.
     
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    does not make sense that it is at the nut if you say it happens when you fret notes. am I missing something here?
     
  12. Trebor Renkluaf

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    So you're saying the G string is ringing out behind the nut? Why not just dampen it with something? I've seen guys stuff a small piece of foam under the strings between the nut and tuners to keep this from happening. Not HiTech but problem solved.
     
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    If you're nut was cut for 9's or 10s, and now there a set of 11s on it, it could very well be the nut slots are not wide enough, so the string is not touching the bottom of the slot.

    Also, lack of downward pressure can cause this too.

    The nut depth/width only has to be off a TINY amount, and it can cause this.
     
  14. Platypus

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    Tech ended up using some felt and it stopped the problem, I'll be picking it up today but that sounds a lot better than putting a new tree in there, esp since I use the trem a lot
     
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    Felt is a good idea. I just use a piece of foam. It is fairly common on Fender guitars.
     
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    Where did he place the felt?
     
  17. Platypus

    Platypus not in rivers, but in drops Supporting Member

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    At the nut and bridge
     

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