I went to check out a Budda Superdrive 80 this weekend and really liked it a lot, but thought for the price tag I should absolutely love it. I was all ready to walk out of the store when I saw a Bogner Shiva sitting there and decided to plug in. I had a Shiva in the past but sold it and always regretted it. Well 2 minutes in I knew I was going home with it. It's got the BEST clean I've ever heard, and the crunch has so much character. Just thought I'd spread the Shiva love a bit.