What are you planning to do with your Mooer pedals now?

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by jrockbridge, Jan 20, 2019.

  1. edwarddavis

    edwarddavis Supporting Member

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    Can we just stop the micro managing of life
    You bought them you knew they were copies
    They got caught so now you feel bad you own them
    There do many other legitimate things to
    Take a stance on
    Just play them or give them away
    If you sell them your just as guilty.
    Hell I’ll happily take them and I’ll pay shipping
     
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  2. caledoneus

    caledoneus Member

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    I have a solution. As I am totally outraged at Mooer, I will take it upon myself to make sure that any mooer pedals you all would like to ship me are properly disposed of...

    An Ocean Machine would be greatly appreciated for disposal...

    Just saying
     
  3. Sam Xavier

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    I too, will gladly offer my services as a Mooer disposal service, and, nice guy that I am, I won't charge a penny for it. :D
     
  4. The Whiz

    The Whiz Member

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    Somebody should build a wall around that country.

    Oh.
     
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  5. ZiggyZipgun

    ZiggyZipgun Member

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    Not only does it not encircle the country, but it's not even near a border.
     
  6. Digitalshrub

    Digitalshrub Supporting Member

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    The news certainly makes me less likely to pursue another Mooer pedal, but my Blues Mood isn't going anywhere. Similarly, I can't fathom purchasing another JHS pedal now that I know more about what the company stands for, but I don't think I'm getting rid of my Muffaletta.
     
  7. run23

    run23 Supporting Member

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    I hate wading into this thread, but I'm procrastinating at work. For what it's worth, I've never bought a Mooer pedal.

    For me it's simple - the law should dictate general actions, but someone can make a personal moral decision that goes beyond the law. If one company legally copies another product, that's just the way competitive markets should work and is generally good for the consumer. If a company creates a product that can be legally copied, that company is taking a known risk that there will be competition, and I don't see why there should be a general moral obligation to give that company a monopoly on that product. Of course, you can personally make the choice not to buy that legally copied product, but I find it a bit annoying when people get on a moral rant telling other people to make that same moral decision.

    One can come up with hundreds of examples where products were legally copied that would likely show the person on the moral high horse that his/her opinion is pretty inconsistent. Cars, watches, fashion, food, vacuum cleaners, TVs and on and on - a company comes up with a cool idea, spends a bunch of time and money developing it, and other companies use the original company's work and development to create a competing product. Unless there is specific IP protection on that first product or parts of it, that's the way the market is supposed to work. That first company would of course be better off with no competition, but that would come at the cost of consumers paying higher/monopoly prices. Personally, in certain cases (e.g., pedals), I'd be willing to pay more to help and reward the original designer, and to keep them in business to create other cool products. A vacuum cleaner or shoes, not so much.

    If a company is illegally stealing IP, I can certainly understand having an issue with people supporting that company, and those companies should pay whatever the penalty is for doing that.
     
  8. The Whiz

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    Please sir. Do not poke holes in my lame attempt at humor. Thank you.
    ;)
     
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  9. Kid Casseroli

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    "What are you planning to do with your Mooer pedals?"

    As a consumer of Mooer pedals, I feel the need to send a message to the company that expresses my displeasure with their actions.

    So, with the Mooer pedals I bought a few years ago, I plan to bury them immediately.

    As a further measure of reprisal, I plan to propose that a sticker be affixed to each of their products with the warning: In the event of fire, toss this pedal in it.

    Furthermore, I propose to never again purchase another Mooer pedal........unless, of course, the discount is 25% or more.
     
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  10. Kid Casseroli

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    Is it O.K. if I dispose of it first, and then send it to you?
     
  11. Squatch57

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    I'll keep my Tender Octaver because I collect 'software lawsuit' pedals
    I have the Guyatone MR2 as well. Which other ones do I need? I suppose the Mooergan is another I need.
     
  12. Steve Hotra

    Steve Hotra Silver Supporting Member

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    Just have one, the CE2 mini pedal.
    Its not even on my board.. and I have no clue where its at.
    So I'm doing nothing.
     
  13. caledoneus

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    well, share and share alike, right? lol
     
  14. iluvfender

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    I have the MK1 Tender Octaver and I'm keeping it. Not as noisy as the Micro Pog I used to have and sounds better to me.
     
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  15. fenderjapan

    fenderjapan World Heavyweight Champion Silver Supporting Member

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    All I have is a mooer DI and it does fine. So I'm not doing anything with them.
     
  16. skyline

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    E-Lady has been nailed to my board for years and is going nowhere.
     
  17. The Whiz

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    I'm strapping all my mooer stuff to the side of a nuclear warhead and sending it back!
    :mad:

    :oops:
     
  18. madmarcus1960

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    Bought a Pre Amp Live last week. I have it going through a Torpedo C.A.B. (in spite of it's own IR loader) into my T21 PEDD, and through a G System for effect. I have to say I'm unexpectedly impressed.. The new 2.0 FW adds a whole bunch of amps, power amps, cabs, and pre boost pedals.

    I must preface all opinions by being transparent about not knowing what a lot of the amps are supposed to sound like. I've been a modelling user most of my playing days, except very early on, when I had no idea what most real amps sound like in the room.

    I went through the 12 shipped presets and found quite a few that I found very satisfying. YMMV! JMHO!
     
  19. Funky54

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    Well... I’m the latest to feel burnt by the cheap mini pedals. I wanted a super cheap knock off of my main board because my main board constantly has reliability issues with the lava cables.. (probably user error but not from lots and lots of patient careful effort)anyway. I bought a KOT clone, King of Blues, a Donner Jet Convolution, Donner Yellow Fall and a Kokko Vibe. All worked fairly well and sounded so good it made me feel guilty about my big board... then I bought a WAVE Delay for a permanent slap back...

    Ok so this picture didn’t clue me in and who goes to the spec section and reads dimensions for the mini’s... I thought they were all the same. This stupid WAVE comes and it truly is a useless toy. First the switch sits 5/8” lower than the mini pedals. Second it sounds VERY digital. It’s advertised with tricky words.. ”All analog circuit” something or another. Just make sure you don’t buy “nano” series. I guess the normal mini’s are 300 series.

    Anyway as ridiculous as it is over a $23 pedal I asked if I could exchange for a normal size mini pedal. They said no. Even if I pay shipping. I don’t like that. They false advertise about all kinds of stuff and then won’t stand behind the pedal.. they have the right to take that stand. And I have the right to get rid of ALL mini’s off even my cheap board, take a picture of them in the trash and post my experience all over the internet.


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    Stupid small and way too low. What switch are they using? Still true bypass?
     
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  20. your buddy named buddy

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    Just to be clear, you can. There's nothing about an analog circuit or fuzz application that invalidates something from being patentable subject matter.
    The US has the "anything under the sun made my man" doctrine from the chakrabarty case which even allows lifeform patents (not every country does)

    it does, however have to be novel and non-obvious to one skilled in the art at the time of invention (and of significant teaching*, though that tends to be a reflection of the novelty and non-obviousness) like any other invention
    ...and that's the real rub.
    any "traditional" design, even if patented is going to be long expired so that's fair game and slight variations are going to get rejected on novelty obviousness or no significant teaching (ie the tweaks aren't enough to qualify as invention)

    I just wanted to bring that up so people don't get confused and think just because something is analog or an analog fuzz it would be unpatentable based on THAT.
     
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