what could beat the black strat in value at auction?

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  1. tim gueguen

    tim gueguen Member

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    More people know ZZ Top for their beards than their instruments. Pearly Gates might actually undersell for a celeb owned instrument.

    Given that Gibbons is like Page, a bit of an oddball, I wouldn't be surprised if he's buried with it.
     
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  2. tim gueguen

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    I think you greatly underestimate Pink Floyd's level of popularity and influence. Just consider that PBS stations in the US play concerts by a Pink Floyd tribute band. Depending on which sales figures are correct they may have actually outsold Queen.
     
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    Let’s assume all guitars are back on the market.

    Now let’s think about it.
     
  4. Electricb

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    You are vastly underestimating Queen’s popularity. Not only have they sold more records worldwide but they are still relevant.

    https://datastudio.google.com/embed/reporting/0B0VJdUPk_8eJbC1uTVNpdlFpNjA/page/VrXI

    According to that site, The two most streamed songs from the 1970s on Spotify are BoRhap and Don’t Stop Me Now. No Floyd tracks are even in the top 10. BoRhap is the only song in the top 100 released before the year 2000.

    Queen has a bit lower profile in the US maybe because they didn’t tour North America after 1982, but they are huge everywhere else.
     
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  5. IGuitUpIGuitDown

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    ”Most people probably in the public at large couldn’t name a song by Pink Floyd let alone ID the guitarist?!?”

    WTF?
     
  6. lendryesky

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    I had a Dark Side of the Moon t-shirt I wore in high school 20 years ago, and I found it the other day. I wore it again for one day after all these years and somebody asked me if I were a gay physicist.
     
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    id be mpre concerned about the state of your house if you are finding “20 year old shirts”
     
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    Oh, I'm not concerned about any of it. I just thought it was weird.
     
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  9. budglo58

    budglo58 Member

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    These guitars would fetch more than Gilmours strat

    SRVs number 1
    Claptons Blackie
    Lennons Casino
    Buddy Hollys strat
    Billy Gibbons Pearly
    Jimis White Strat
    BBs Lucille
    Willie Nelsons Trigger
    Elvis Presleys Martin D28
    Hank Williams D28
    Jimi Pages Les Paul

    These are just starters
     
  10. Losov

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    Well, certainly none of mine, so . . . . . . .
     
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  11. alexanderplatz

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    The more I think about it, the more Page's #1 seems like the most likely to bring in the big bucks. He's more closely associated with that particular guitar, as opposed to a whole stable of guitars, and it's already a valuable instrument as a 1959 Les Paul. i.e. Strip away the star power and it's a much more valuable guitar than any Strat or Telecaster.

    In comparison, Billy Gibbons' famous Les Paul "Pearly Gates" would bring a lot at auction but it would bring even more if it was a guitar that he had been touring with all these years. He's more associated with a whole slew of cool/whimsical/theatrical custom guitars.
     
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    Correct. Pink Floyd has been pretty peripheral in pop culture since their 1970’s and early 80’s commercial peak. They have a few songs that might play on a “classic rock” format station, but increasingly even those stations have a narrowing playlist from the 1970’s that don’t feature Pink Floyd anymore. I’m in my late 40’s and can certainly wax on about how great “The Wall” is, but most people in their 30’s and on down never really knew the band which had petered out before the MTV era. By contrast, everyone knows multiple Queen songs which still get played regularly and their popularity has spiked multiple times in recent decades to keep them on the map.
     
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    None of the above.

    I would put money on the "Sabionari", one of five surviving Antonio Stradivarius made guitars. It is the only one out of the five that is still playable.

     
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    Young, Springsteen and the like may not spawn "the universal type of appeal that reaches the upper echelons of collectors and players" in a traditional sense, but we're moving into an era in which these axes are becoming the new Mona Lisas to a new generation of billionaires. As they get sold at auction for charity it will be less about the guitar, artist or event and more about the buyer's expression of adoration. For instance some billionaire will eventually pay 5 million for Bruce's Tele just to signal that The Boss was the best and that he/she is a bigger fan of Springsteen than that other billionaire dude is of Gilmour.
    Either that or some high-profile mere millionaire like Jimmy Fallon will acquire Old Black and occassionally pull it down from its trophy/museum shelf to play it in public... which would be kinda cool...
     
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    Wouldn't be as much as some, but a smashed Townsend guitar can bring 100s of times the value of the same guitar in playable condition.
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    If I had my way that picture would be expunged from every last nook and cranny of the internet.
     
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    And yet you quoted it for us to see again......
     
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  18. tim gueguen

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    Sorry, but I'll stick with actual album sales instead of streams from a single service, and there seems to be debate over which band sold more. Whatever the case the fact that Pink Floyd sold 250 million albums demonstrates their impact.
     
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    You are looking at this through rainbow prisms . Those two bands by any OBJECTIVE analysis are as close to dead equal as you can get. Maybe Google " Live Aid Queen " to get an idea of Queen's stature.
    Put pictures up of David holding his Black Strat and Brian holding his Red Special and I can't imagine more people correctly identifying David across generations and countries.
     
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  20. Electricb

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    Ultimately it’s all conjecture, but why ignore facts when trying to make a guess?
     

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