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What home monitoring solution am I looking for?

thrashmetl

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I've currently got an Eleven Rack, but I am soon planning on upgrading to an AxeFx II. The problem is, I don't know what monitoring solution is best for me. With the Eleven Rack I'm running some Rokit 5 studio monitors, but it's not working for me. I'm looking for something bigger sounding than that, the monitors don't have enough low end and they're not loud enough. I kind of want something closer to an amp in the room, although I'm not sure it's possible.

I actually used to have an Atomic Reactor 112-50 and a 212-50 as well, the one with the dock for the modelers, that I ran with a Pod XT and an X3. I ended up selling the 212-50 (too big, didn't need that much sound) and I loved the hell out of the 112-50. The Atomic was the first generation and it was tube powered with a relatively flat response 12" speaker in it and that's it, not a true FRFR type thing. That was a great rig, but when I got an HD500, the HD sounded pretty bad through it as the Atomics were designed specifically for the XT and X3 modeling technology.

I would love to get something that provided the same type of solution that the Atomic Reactor provided with my old Pods. The only problem is, I don't know if a regular old PA monitor is what will be the best solution, or something else?

The great part about the Atomic Reactor 112-50 was that it was relatively flat response, but you could run it with the cab and mics on so could get the Marshall's to sound pretty big, but also get the Tweed Deluxe to sound like a small amp. This made it feel to me like a fairly decent amp in the room situation, all the low end I needed. I definitely need something where I can run the cabinets and mics because I need the small amps to sound small, and the big amps to sound big, not like everything is running through the same cabinet.

For this reason I clearly cannot just use a regular guitar cabinet with a power amp in front of it. I was also looking into the Matrix NL12 as I started seeing amp in the room, then I noticed everyone was using it with the cab and mics turned off.

I like what I'm seeing with the Mission Engineering Gemini series amps, but getting down to basics, it's not any different than a decent PA monitor.

Did any of you AxeFX II guys ever have an old Atomic Reactor with the Pod Dock? Does a PA monitor give a relatively similar type of solution? Or is there some other product that I should look into?
 

690MBCOMMANDO

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For my AxeFx (Ultra and II) I like the Atomic Reactors. For my HD500x and HD500 I actually use the Bose Companion 5s for my monitoring and get great results at low volumes and it sounds very similar going direct into a PA (which is really what I wanted since I wanted my home tones to equal live).
 

Madmax25

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I have no experience with monitors what-so-ever (I personally run a Tonelab SE through a tube power amp and cabinet), but it sounds to me like you need the Atomic CLR, judging from all the posts I've read on this forum about them...
 

thrashmetl

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For my AxeFx (Ultra and II) I like the Atomic Reactors. For my HD500x and HD500 I actually use the Bose Companion 5s for my monitoring and get great results at low volumes and it sounds very similar going direct into a PA (which is really what I wanted since I wanted my home tones to equal live).
Did you mean to say CLR or are you using an original Atomic Reactor?
 

FenderTone

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I've also been thinking about new monitors for my home setup. Our bass player brought a pair of passive Yamaha BR12M monitors to our last gig to loan to another band we were playing with. Since they were set up we used them too and I was impressed with them. They seemed very honest and flat.

I'm certainly not saying they're flat enough to trust using them for mixing but one of these days I'm thinking maybe I'll A/B the BR12M against known (to me) near fields.

Anyone mixed using the BR12M?
 

Ape Factory

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I'm currently using M-Audio BX8D2's with a Kemper. They're exceptional for the price ($400) but they're also probably the weak link in my audio setup. I think my next upgrade path is to update to either a different set of higher end monitors or going with something larger, either an FRFR or a more guitar cab-like unit for that "in the room" feel.

Right now I'm considering:
Atomic CLR
Matrix Neolight amplified guitar cab, NL112 (maybe 2)
Mission Engineering once there's more feedback on them
Higher end studio monitors like the JBL LSR4328P Pak

Obviously each has it's advantages and disadvantages depending on how you intend to use them (I'm still up in the air as to use and what I want!).
 

thrashmetl

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Been looking at the NL12, but I want to run it with the cab sims on. Opinions on that anyone? Does the NL12 sound good with the cab sims on or not?
 






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