What is different about a Trainwreck amp?

HeeHaw

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I have seen threads about them here and there on TGP, but never understood what the deal was. Can someone explain about them? Are they like a hot rod Marshall?
 

VacuumVoodoo

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There are lots of legends surrounding Ken Fisher's Trainwreck designs, apparently no two amps are alike.

You may also take a peek at the Trainwreck cloners D.I.Y. forum
 

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It really is something you need to experience. I would say it is the nearest thing to having the guitar plugged directly to the speaker through a cord that gets louder all by itself. I know that sounds silly but the amp just responds so immediately and organically. Play light and the sound is clean, dig in and the sound gets distorted. The amp seems to suck the sound from your guitar. I have never heard an amp where the strap locks can be heard through the speakers like it does with a Wreck. It is an amp that responds directly to what the player does like it is invisible it doesn't seem to impart its sound on you as much as suck it out of you. They can be down right scary they go into feed back on any note not just certain notes you have to constantly be damping the strings to keep control of it. Mine is voiced for lead playing not beefy lows. A very large part of the sound comes from the power tubes. I have tried mine with 5 or 6 different power tubes and like the Tungsol 6550s the best. I wish I could play it half as good as it deserves.

Oh and mine is a clone a good clone I think.....no code 66 I hope. :D
 

martins3325

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Damn Mook..Ken aughta come outta retirement and build you one special just for being crazy enough to do that! :eek:
 

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Originally posted by HeeHaw
I have seen threads about them here and there on TGP, but never understood what the deal was. Can someone explain about them? Are they like a hot rod Marshall?
I was all caught up in the trainwreck hype as well. I played an Experss at Ultrasound in NY. To me, it sounded extremley similar to my 1972 50 watt Marshall, but MUCH brighter. I did not care for it at all. Ultrasound now has 6 of them, so you can go there and play an entire slew of them for yourself and see if you like them.
 

bluesdoc

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I just finished building a Rocket clone. I cannot stop playing it. The most luscious chimey clean to edge I've ever played. And I've never been able to be OK with no effects. But this is different. Truly amazing. My understanding is that this is basically a modded AC30 design. The one I built (with a little help from my friends.......) is a take on the Rocket. Slightly different components. The Express is a totally different animal.

jon
 

martins3325

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That Ultrasound place sounds totally cool...with the prices of all the high-end amps it would be tremendous to be able to spend a few hours side by side testing the worlds greatest --and most expensive-- amps. Though I totally dig my constellation I would have loved being able to compare it to two rock, fuchs, /13, alessandro, trainwreck, ect..

I believe the TW Express origins stem more from a Black Face Bassman --one of the most under-rated amps ever in my book--. I know theres alotta voodoo about the trainwrecks..and supposedly Ken says he never heard a copy that sounded good. But I also think alot of Tainwreck fans are wound a bit tight..in that if you had a real one and posted clips saying you had built a clone..theyd bash it and say it wasnt near as good as a real one. lol
 

58gasman

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But I also think alot of Tainwreck fans are wound a bit tight..in that if you had a real one and posted clips saying you had built a clone..theyd bash it and say it wasnt near as good as a real one. lol
:dude
 
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I believe the TW Express origins stem more from a Black Face Bassman --one of the most under-rated amps ever in my book--. [/B]



If you compare schematics it is a little closer to the Vibrato channel of a Fender blackface reverb amp. The reverb recovery amp is there with a little different biasing.

I building one right now, follow the progress at Wreck Project

Peace Love and Dumbles to all.....

Gary
 

larrylover

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Yeah, unfortunately, it does look real. I hope Fischer is paying him for the publicity, but I suspect the dawning of such thinking has not reached the tattooee.

I think we have a couple of entrants for the Redneck Games set for next Saturday July 10 in East Dublin, Georgia -- the home of beautiful Georgia red clay. The tattoo event comes right after the crushing beer cans, the mudpit belly-flop, armpit serenade and bobbing for pigs' feet competitions.
 

michael.e

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Geez Larry,
Seems that you are taking the tattoo a bit personally. What's up? M.E.
 

larrylover

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No, No, I didn't mean to come across as severe. My apologies if it does. Just trying to have a little 4th fun. I can't get to the Redneck Games, you see, and I am going to miss it.
 




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