What is the best current production EL34 for a Marshall Plexi?

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  1. Guitar Dave T

    Guitar Dave T Member

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    Regular JJ EL34'S for me in both my 50w plexis. At home volumes, the Tung Sols do as well, but at gig volumes, the JJ's have amazing classic PUNCH & CRUNCH.
     
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  2. Zado

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    By chance has anyone compared the JJ E34Ls with the EL34II?
     
  3. Stormin

    Stormin Tele's and Plexis Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I’ve been very happy with the Svetlana, TAD and Electro Harmonix EL34s. I also have some original Mullard and Siemens but the 3 new offerings I mentioned are just fine.
     
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    For $43 shipped, go get a quad of Nesstone EL34's on ebay and beat the **** out of them. I bough a quad but haven't had a chance to plug them in yet.
     
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    The winged C are great. I also really like the GT EL34m. Since groove tube is usually a rebrand a cheaper equivalent may be available.
     
  7. DonP

    DonP Member

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    For $168 a pair, they shouldn't have typos in their ad:
    "Shuguang WE6SN7 Plus Vacuum Tube Matched Pair"

    The 6SN7 is a pre-amp tube. I'd be pissed if I paid $168 for a pair of pre-amp tubes I couldn't even use.
     
  8. RayBarbeeMusic

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    WTH is RFT?
     
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    RFT was a manufacturer of tubes in former East Germany.
     
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    Yup, though not in a Plexi. The E34L is bigger low end, more headroom, more aggressive sounding (can be harsh to some). The EL34II is a very classic sounding EL34 with a sweet sound overall - less aggro than the E34L but still with enough top end to get that kerrang.
     
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  11. big mike

    big mike Plexi Loving Admin Staff Member

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    Agreed.
    The Svetlana have been my fave's but the tungsol EL34B's are good too.
    No need to go anywhere else for me.

    I did raid the NOS Stash cuz I had them, but i'm done buying high dollar powertubes for marshalls.
    Preamp tubes is another story.
     
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  12. big mike

    big mike Plexi Loving Admin Staff Member

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    Remaining supplies are suspect.
     
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    big mike Plexi Loving Admin Staff Member

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    Reads 'Siemens'
    Great tubes.
     
  14. big mike

    big mike Plexi Loving Admin Staff Member

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    I'm just using them until they go. When that's done, i'll use new sensor svet's moving forward unless something changes.

    RFT and NOS Tesla I have are great, but tonally maybe 2-3% better if that, and even then you can't tell in the band mix.
     
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    In my 77 SuperLead, once I tried JJ6ca7’s I’ll never get el34s again. Big, clear and powerful sounding, a bit less on the higher mid frequency.
     
  16. Les Paul Lover

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    RFT was a valve manufacturer based in Germany, ending up on the east side at the end of the 2nd world war.

    Until the 80s, when quality dropped, they manufactured great quality valves, and their EL34 and ECC83 are fantastic valves.

    Their 60s EL34 are considered equal or better to mullards- depending on the circuit you put them in.
     
  17. Les Paul Lover

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    It might depend on the circuit too. The short base RFT I have sound huge in my Orange R30, much thicker and fuller. I'm wondering if that's because that circuit allows for a lot a low mids to start with?

    Again, I really liked bith JJ EL34 and Tung Sol EL34 too before I tried the RFT.
     
  18. Fireball XL5

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    Agreed. Winged C's are no longer in production, had quality issue towards the end, and what's out there is WAY overpriced. I don't understand why they even get brought up at this point as a viable new production option? I wouldn't touch them.

    Svetlana's get my vote. Have them in my '68 plexi Super Bass and they sound great.
     
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  19. VICOwner

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    I have a pair of New Sensor Svetlana EL34’s and they are HOT. I have to turn my bias pot all the way to get 71%. And people say they don’t sound good but I like them. I pulled them and put in a set of Marshall branded winged C and that’s what I’m running now. They are a little under power but sound like winged C.
    All this studying is for the 100 watt I’m about to start and I want a baseline since I have to get quads.
    I heard that the 100 watt will sound better than a 50 watt because it runs a quad.
     
  20. Zado

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    Thanks! I like the sound of E34Ls in my Yeti, but I find them a lil too ballsy and low-end-is at times , a lil more bite and clarity would be appreciated even with a lil low end sacrificed
     
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