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Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by michael.e, Oct 23, 2005.
So I see that the original Whammy's go for up to $400.00. Why? Are they that much better? M.E.
I'm perfectly happy with my reissue. Used in a live setting, noone would notice a difference. People say the original tracks better, but I can't hear a difference from when i play the bends era radiohead on my whammy. If you want 100% perfect tracking, the whammy (any version) is not for you. To me, the spots where it wavers a bit is part of it's charm (easily noticeable in the intro to my iron lung, for example).
Warning: the reissue sucks tone like a pornstar. I put mine in a loooper, so no problem for me. The original apparently had a better bypass
Fooled around with the original at a music shop when it first came out, but at the time I thought it was just waay too expensive for a silly toy.
As I recall, the actual pitch-shifted tones sounded just as cheezy & glitchy as the current RI. I do know that they outsourced the first design to a Canadian company called IVL and all subsequent variations were done in house. They also collaborated with this same company on their RPM-1 rotary speaker emulator, which to this day remains one of my favorite Leslie sims.
IVL went on to produce a series of wacky rackmount effects, the most memorable of which being the Electrix Repeater. We Repeater users are still patiently waiting for the company to ressurect itself and address the many hardware/software issues surrounding Repeater v1.1. But we're not holding our breath.
The Whammy 4 retails for around the same price as the original did. How much better could the old one be if you can still snag one on eBay for $400?
Can't comment on the changes to the buffer, but in most situations that I'm using the Whammy in, pristine tone is anything but a priority. I keep all non-true-bypass pedals in a loop, anyway, so that's where the WH1 would be if I owned one.
As far as improvements go, the new one has been MIDIfied for the thoroughly modren player. They've also installed lights for old geezers like me.
If I was serious about pitch shifting I'd save up for an Eventide. In the meantime, I'm having a blast my WH IV!
i've been using a wh-1 for about ten years now. i have not tryed the reissue so i can't compare.
one thing i can say, wh-1 is a major tone suck when bypassed. it's difficult for me to imagine the reissue being worse.
The only other thing to add to what has already been mentioned, is the original, you could stomp on it to change settings, up or down. With this RI's, you either have to use midi, or actaully bend down and twist a little dial to change settings. I think the reason for the high price on the originals is the ease of use, and not the tracking or anything else. The tracking kinda sucks on all of em lol. And yes, they are tone suckers. But they are also a unique toy that can do a lot of things.
Hey! Thanks for mentioning that ABKB. In the many diatribes I've slogged thru' praising the original effusively without actually qualifying their questionable reasoning - NO ONE has ever brought up that single salient selling point!
After reading "------- uses one, so it's GOT to be better!" more times than I'd care to remember, I went out and bought a new one. I've never even heard of _______ anyway, but had I known about that heel/toe switching system, I mighta coughed up for the old one, but probably not!
Lol, no problem. Yep, it's got nothing to do with sound I think, and a LOT more to do with laziness Though I cant figure why they didnt keep the original heel/toe thing, seems to make more sense than that teeny dial. But maybe it was a parts/profit issue.
The WH-2 is the one with the two buttons for switching.
The WH-1 is a rotary knob.
The WH-1 tracks better as the note fades. Something to do with the buffer setup in the WH-2 & 4 is what I've heard.....'causes the pedal to loose it's lock as the signal from the guitar fades. If it's really that big a deal I'm sure this could be fixed by running some compression out front.....but part of the sound of a Whammy is it's glitching.
Other than that, for live use I don't think most'd be able to tell the difference.
But, the WH-1 has a smaller footprint than the some-what larger WH-4.
I thought the new reissues of the wh1 were true bypass.
I've amassed quite a collection of kooky DigiTech effects over the years, and AFAIK, nothing they make is true bypass.