What is the gain equal to Marshall JCM 800, VHT Ultra Lead, Engl Powerball?Originally posted by Ricker
They all have the same pre.............
it's just the more aggressive nature of the 80 with the big bottle tubes and the shear volume it delivers that will make people say it is the highest gain budda........but in fact it has the same pre as the low wattage sd series
Budda is Gooooooooooooooooood
Ricker
It will gain out alot more than a JCM800..........a bit more than a bogner shiva.........so I guess between a jcm and a VHT ..........but I've never heard the vht so I'm guessing.Originally posted by gearo999
What is the gain equal to Marshall JCM 800, VHT Ultra Lead, Engl Powerball?
I don't know enough to speak to the technical side of things, but to my ears, the rhythm channel is VERY much like the NMV amps - the high input of the TM, in particular. The rhythm channel has the unmistakable Budda characteristic, moreso than the lead channel. I currently own an SD80 and Stringmaster, and previously owned a Twinmaster and SD18, FWIW. When you drive the rhythm channel of the SD for a gainier sound, it has that slight rattiness/looseness and bark to it that sets it apart from the lead channel of an SD and is very reminiscent of the older amps. The rhythm channel, with the gain at 2 or 3 o'clock, at a healthy volume, with an LP, is a beautiful, beautiful thing. Like Warren Haynes if he had some meat to his tone.Originally posted by Dave B
While we are on Budda's Supedrives, they all have three 12AX7's in the preamp. I'm guessing V3 is the phase inverter. Can any of you SD owners tell me how many halves of V1 and V2 are used for the Normal channel? the Drive channel? I'm just trying to get a feel for how they compare to the earlier non-MV models (had a TM, own a DS30), which used half of V1 for the Normal channel and both halves for what they call the High Gain side.
I heard an SD30 a few years back, and played it mostly through the Drive channel. I remember the Drive side was thicker, more fluid, and sustained longer than their older amps, but I don't remember the Normal side at all. I'm wondering how close the Normal side of an SD18 or SD30 can get to either input on the TM, and was thinking the number of tube stages may have a large bearing on that answer. Anyone own/owned both and had a chance to compare apples to apples here?
It's worth a lot to me, since you get to compare both their non-MV and MV amps and I can't.Originally posted by ratter
.....I currently own an SD80 and Stringmaster, and previously owned a Twinmaster and SD18, FWIW.....
I would have guessed the SD's use two gain stages for the Rhythm channel, and four stages for the Drive channel. This would then make sense that your SD more resembled your High Gain input on your TM. I could live with that sound on the Rhythm side of the SD18. It sounds like this could be considered a TM going through the High Gain input with MV, which is what I'm trying to find.Originally posted by ratter
.....but to my ears, the rhythm channel is VERY much like the NMV amps - the high input of the TM, in particular. The rhythm channel has the unmistakable Budda characteristic, moreso than the lead channel..... When you drive the rhythm channel of the SD for a gainier sound, it has that slight rattiness/looseness and bark to it that sets it apart from the lead channel of an SD and is very reminiscent of the older amps. The rhythm channel, with the gain at 2 or 3 o'clock, at a healthy volume, with an LP, is a beautiful, beautiful thing.....
That's what I liked about the TM I had for seven years! I'm just hoping to find a very similar sound in the SD18 at lower volumes. I even thought about getting a TM 1x12 (had a 2x12 w/ Hotplate, and it was still louder than I needed), to move less air, but I figure the SD18 (or 30) may be the way to go with their MV.Originally posted by LesPaulPlayer
.....Both the TM and VM have a lot of gain compared to typical non-MV amps (when plugged into the 2-gain-stage high gain input).
Works for me! All the Buddas I've encountered had their own recognizable vibe and sonic stamp, as did the Phatman I owned.Originally posted by Probos
.....The Budda SD's are very cool amps that have their own "thang" going on.