What is wrong with this picture

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  1. drpoyer

    drpoyer Member

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    It is not that hard to see, but it is my nightmare this week..

    Seller is sure there is nothing wrong. The math says otherwise.

    It is a super big pain as any fix for this is expensive and invasive, or a hack to correct the angles. Very sad for such a nice 25 year old archtop H576.

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  2. texasdw

    texasdw Gold Supporting Member

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    Yikes! That is terrible...
     
  3. Whiskeyrebel

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    It's zoomed in quite close. What are you showing here?
     
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    arch tops often have carves that curve down from the upper bouts. that may be part of the intended carve shape
     
  5. Tiny Montgomery

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    What does the neck angle usually look like, on that model?
     
  6. drpoyer

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    I compared the angles to another H576. The other was a couple years newer but did not have the issue.
     
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    great-case.com a.k.a. "Mitch"

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    That'll rub right out. Kidding aside, good luck. It looks gone.
     
  8. walterw

    walterw Gold Supporting Member

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    i have no idea what you guys are seeing, it looks totally normal to me.
     
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    Looks like the strings are a good bit closer to the highest fret (on the right) as opposed to the lower frets (on the left). What do I win?
     
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  11. Michael Johnson

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    It's zoomed in quite close.[​IMG]
     
  12. drpoyer

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    A hell of a deal in a neck reset.
     
  13. kidmo

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    Release that one back into the wild. The string actually looks closer to the last fret than the first fret on the left.
     
  14. ef_in_fla

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    No one plays up there on a hollow body, or a solid body even. How does it play over the other 98%?
     
  15. zztomato

    zztomato Supporting Member

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    Contact Heritage. It should not have left the factory like that. They may fix it no charge.

    It would be good to see a shot with the bridge in the picture.

    But, how has the guitar been played like this for the past 25 years?
     
  16. Dale

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    It is really hard to tell in the picture if it is the guitar or the camera angle. It is also hard to tell without some sense of the set up on the guitar. There does not seem to me to be enough information here to know if there is an issue.
     
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  17. buddyboy69

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    its gonna fret out pretty quick.
     
  18. GuitarKidd

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    Well, I think the entire context needs to be included. What is the neck bow like? If the neck is bowed, perhaps it needs straightened out. If you follow the binding of the neck, it looks fairly parallel with the pickup mounts. Perhaps the neck is bowed, causing the extreme string height difference and a simple truss adjustment and then bridge adjustment is all that will be needed to correct.
     
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  19. drbob1

    drbob1 Silver Supporting Member

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    That would be what's referred to as a "ski-jump", the high end of the fretboard being raised up so that the notes buzz or fret out, especially playing up the neck. And it's a bitch to fix, it can be improved by filing the upper frets, by planing the fretboard and replacing the upper frets, or ideally by resetting the neck. The problem is that the first two look amateur and aren't ideal and the last one costs more than the guitar is worth. I'm afraid that one is relegated to an experiment for an aspiring luthier, or someone who only plays cowboy chords...
     
  20. crhfish

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    Without seeing the bridge and a shot of the neck relief, that picture does not show anything that I can see. Right now the strings are to close to the frets, but the neck angle could be correct as others have said. It would be hard to play the way it currently is set up.
     
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