Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by tone?, May 2, 2015.
Just the body with no hardware
I'm just curious after a little experiment I did.
Just under 5 pounds, just the body, no hardware or neck.
Yup just body
Like you would buy from warmoth
Preferred weight in any wood is just enough to counter the tuners and neck.
Most CS alder strats have bodies of around 4 pounds interestingly enough
Three pounds eight ounces before paint ends up giving a Strat right at the seven pound mark when all is said and done. Too much lighter and they can be a bit anemic sounding, imho, but ultimately it depends on each piece of wood's individual character. I've tended to prefer Strats in the low to mid seven pound range over the years, with some notable exceptions.
You guys don't seriously weigh the body of the guitar, do you?
I thought is was bad enough you guys weighed your guitars at all.
When shopping Warmoth, I always look at weight.
I made the mistake once of not taking weight into consideration and accidently bought myself a boat anchor. A beautiful Shedua topped boat anchor.
Now, I wont even consider anything over 4 1/2 pounds no matter what the lumber its made from. I try and stay closer to 4 if possible.
I know that this can sound silly to some. When I was a kid, strong and full of pith and vinegar, I never even thought about guitar weight.
Now at 51 and having suffered multiple spine injuries, compression fractures to a neck and lumbar bone along with 5 completely blown soft discs, degenerative disc disease, multi-level spinal stenosis with impingement and arthritis etc.
Weight now is a major issue to consider for electric guitars. The heavy Warmoth Strat I had, had to be sold off though I loved it dearly. The weight of it pinched nerves in my shoulder and neck and would make my left arm go totally numb...and my neck would ache for days.
I laughed off the injuries when I received them in my youth, but they caught up with me in a big way @10 years ago.
Lighter is better. And makes no difference in tone.
Can't you just get a thicker strap?
Okay, you win. Your I'm As Tough as Paul Hogan Awardboxer) is in the mail . The Russell Crowe Award was already taken
Not sure why you're being sarcastic.
Thicker guitar straps will help distribute the weight of the guitar more evenly across your shoulder, making the guitar feel lighter than it is.
A wider strap does help, but if you have a 12 lb guitar , you still have a 12 lb guitar pushing down on your spine.
I prefer them a little on the heavy side -- 4lb. 11oz. for my Warmoth Strat body (which is a truly ballsy sounding axe even with vintage output pickups) and 5lb. 2 oz. for my Tele body. And I agree on wider straps -- really does make a guitar feel much lighter. I wouldn't be able to heft my 11 lb. Agile AL-3010SE otherwise.
around 3.5 to 3.75 pounds is perfect for me. Thats the average weight Suhr typically uses on classics as well.
It gives you a well balanced and fairly light guitar (7 to 7.5 lbs) and all my best sounding strats have been in that range.
So now that people have chimed in i would like to say my observations.
Btw these are imho and please let's not fight over these silly details.
My 3 pound 12 ounce warmoth body with schaller minis is 7 pounds 4 ounces.
Has a vintage trem and hs-3 pups which are about as light as vintage pups.
Vintage tuners are 2 ounces less.
So most CS fenders have bodies that must be around 4 pounds +
If you want to get to around 7 pounds 8 ounces for the entire weight the body has to be around 4 pounds 3 ounces.
This is with vintage specs.
Just a bit of an eye opener for me personally.
It depends on the trem system/block too. Some of them weigh a little more or less (fender vs gotoh vs callaham, etc) 3 ply 11 hole pickguard and backplate vs. one ply, number of trem springs, etc. The neck plate (callaham thicker vs fender) little things can push it one way or another by a few ounces. And of course the neck weight! Not all necks weigh the same.
I actually weighed the gotoh callaham and fender They are very close.
My formula is body weight plus 3.5lbs. That is with a med neck, steel block, etc. When deciding if a body will resonate well, you should be considering moisture content over weight with all things being equal. Alder is very consistent in weight, unlie pine or ash even.