What kind of setup should I be looking into for a rock band? Recommendations?

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  1. fiveightandten

    fiveightandten Member

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    The point of a guitar direct box?
    -Less complex than mic'ing the cab
    -More consistent sound than micing the cab
    -No potential for feedback or bleed
    -Less gear to carry
    -Smaller footprint on stage

    I have digital cab IRs in my recording software and they sound fantastic. The hardware units haven't quite caught up, but they do sound good from my experience.

    I mean, I love my speakers (I have expensive AlNiCo's in my main cabinet), but i'm trying to make this as simple as possible. Have you used modern cab sims with poor results?
     
  2. walterw

    walterw Gold Supporting Member

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    i don’t see any of those things as being true!

    mic’ing an amp isn’t hard, you don’t get feedback or bleed into guitar mics unless you’re doing something really wrong, and a 609 laying on the grill cloth takes no more room than the amp itself.

    you also avoid any issues with ground hums from patching into the amps direct.

    the way i see it, if you’re trying to simplify the stage setup then just “sim” the whole amp and use a modeler or something, that way you can leave the amp at home and have super-low stage volume.
     
  3. sants

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    Turn down on stage and let the pa do the work. Even in smaller places it will sound better spreading sound evenly through the pa than blasting away on stage to carry the room. If it’s a real tiny place I understand playing the room with vocal pa only. Miking up the drums can add fullness to the sound without making it loud, especially kick and toms.

    If your guys are loud and your drummer heavy handed, it’s not going to be easy.

    I work with a band that pretty much all goes direct and uses IEMs. The drummer hits so hard it almost defeats the purpose. I couldn’t imagine how loud it would be with wedges and amps trying to compete over him.

    I mic everything whenever possible. I get to work with really good musicians who have great touch and dynamics so I’m a little spoiled.
     
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    Agreed!
     
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    I haven't tried the iP2000, I have a Bose L1 for many years, it can fill a good size room but more like background music than a show. I'd thought about a pair of iP2000 for stereo separation but it was more than I wanted to spend.

    I use my Alto (2 * TS210 + 1 * T212s sub) for my electronic rigs (one includes 3-4 synths, 1 dj source, and optionally guitar, into a mixer; the other is drum, bass, and two synths into a mixer);
    very clear and it can get very loud. I think the Altos are very good for the price
     
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    2 or 3 good mic's (2 overhead, 1 kick) will capture drums well enough for personal listening and improvement. No need to go all out buying the most expensive mic's.
     

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