What magnet would you swap in your bridge humbucker if an A2 is too ice-picky

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  1. pine

    pine Silver Supporting Member

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    Have a Suhr HSS Classic Pro, and have gone down the rabbit hole of trying to find a good bridge humbucker for it that splits well. Right now I'm using a custom Vaughn Skow A2 PAF that almost gets me there. I have also tried a Thornbucker+ and of course the OEM Suhr pickup. The guitar is alder and has a maple neck, so it's intrinsically kind of bright, but I would like to use the treble pickup for solos without skewering everyone with high end. Rolling back the tone knob just ends up giving me a muffled tone that won't work. The middle and neck pickup sound fine.
     
  2. Dannyz

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    Duncan Custom Custom (Trembucker version) is your best bet.
     
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    I'd maybe look at the tone cap if you've already been through alot of pickups.
     
  4. pine

    pine Silver Supporting Member

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    I am going to take both of those suggestions to heart, gentlemen!
     
  5. FLYING V 83

    FLYING V 83 Gibson Geezer Silver Supporting Member

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    Why not try rotating it 180?
    I do this on all my guitars, can't stand a thin treble pup.
     
  6. pine

    pine Silver Supporting Member

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    Will that mess up the polarity for the Suhr SSCII system on this guitar?
     
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    If it's too thin and ice-picky with an A2, either change the pot and/or capacitor value or just put a different pickup in it. Pretty much any other magnet you swap in that pickup will make it brighter...except an A3, which is very similar to A2 tonally, just weaker.
     
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    FLYING V 83 Gibson Geezer Silver Supporting Member

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    Have no idea.
    I play Les Pauls and Flying Vs.
    It works on those.
     
  9. pine

    pine Silver Supporting Member

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    What will happen if I switch the 500K pot for a 250K pot on a humbucker?
     
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    It will take away a lot of that brightness, just make it a lot warmer sounding. Probably exactly what you're looking for. Something to consider there, is Suhr uses a resistor so the single coils "see" 250k at a 500k volume pot. So you'd need to take that resistor out too if you put a 250k pot in there.
     
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  11. pine

    pine Silver Supporting Member

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    If I wanted to go the capacitor route, it looks like there is a 22n cap on that pot now, should I go up or down in capacitance to cut the highs a bit?
     
  12. Garrett Bagby

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    Yep, this.
     
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    Yep , 250K or 300K volume pot for the Bucker. :aok
     
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    If an A2 is too ice-picky, I’d say you’ve got an issue somewhere else in the chain
     
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    Definitely try a 300k volume pot before anything else.
     
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    The issue with just changing the capacitor is that it will only make a difference once you roll down the tone pot. If you want something that will make a difference all the time, even with everything turned up all the way, you're going to have to change the pot.
     
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    Another vote for the Custom Custom, but if you want more PAF-type output, look at the Alnico II Pro.
     
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    If the pickup with an A2 is icepicky, then you won’t be happier with any magnet swap. It is most likely the guitar which is too trebly or your amp and pedal setup. Start here.
     
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    What was the problem with the TB+ and stock SSH+?
     
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    If you use your Tone knob at any value other than max and the guitar isn't bright enough…

    Roll your guitar's Volume and Tone back to, say, 8 or 8.5 then adjust your amp's settings as needed. Now you have room to go up and down in volume and tone. The rest is practice and learning to use the Volume and Tone controls. A2 is the darker alnico. A magnet swap will only make things brighter. You don't need to buy or replace a thing.

    Ice-Pick tends to happen when the Volume and Tone are way up. Pickups have a natural resonant peak with a center peak typically around 3K-5K. This peak is usually pronounced when the Volume and Tone are way up, especially with higher-value pots (eg 1M, 500K). Rolling back the guitar's volume or tone will make that resonant peak less pronounced. Or, depending on position, may more or less disappear, or lower the center frequency and/or decrease the Q.
     
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