What makes a Gibson a Gibson?

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  1. 56_Special

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    What connects the guitars manufactured today by Gibson to the guitars made in, say, 1959? Different factory, different workers, different design, different materials, different management, different tools...What is the the same? Is there a sense in which today's Gibsons enjoy more continuity with the Gibsons of yore than anyone of many good non-Gibson copies?
     
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    The logo on the headstock :D
     
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    What makes a Gibson a Gibson? All of those lovely flaws that inexplicably add up to a great sounding guitar.
     
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    Basically the name. Same with Fender.

    If we had enough money, TGP could buy Gibson, hire a whole new crew, new factory, etc. all the things you named, and to the general public, it'd still be a Gibson.
     
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    +1 Actually the guitars made in Kalamazoo today have more of a Heritage to the older '59 guitars than those made in Nashville.
     
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    What makes a Gibson a Gibson: Arrogance, pure and simple.

    Sure, I love the great designs of past, the heritage of the name, and the playability and feel of the better examples. But arrogance is the only explanation I can come up with for the insanely high price for such a poorly quality controlled final product.

    BTW, I currently own a Memphis Custom Shop CS-336 Gibson, a Nashville production 61 SG RI, and a Japanes Burny Les Paul copy. As much as I love the 336, the Burny smokes 'em both.
     
  10. Joe Boy

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    I'm not sure just how to answer that one...
    What makes anything like the original. Things change with time.

    Its craftmenship building artistic instruments.

    Any builder should have one foot planted firmly in the past with proven ablity and taking a step forward to provide the tools needed to deliver the talent and dreams of other artists.

    Say what you will about the name and owner. I think Gibson builds fine guitars. I don't agree with their buisness practices of late but frankly could care less.
     
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    Not exactly. My apologies for being unclear.

    I reckon Gibson's existance is based on the incredibly ground breaking and often duplicated designs (as in other companies base their guitars on a Gibson core designs) from the past, including the Les Paul, 335 (Ted McCarty) and L-5 (Lloyd Loar). I also have great admiration for the completely carved design of the CS-336 and 356, but it can be argued that these guitars are hybrids of the Les Paul and 335.

    Sure Tokai, Greco, Burny, et al, got their start and still base much of their business model on building better quality copies, but they have really grown and prospered in eras of poor quality control from the companies they copy.

    And I have not seen such a lack of quality control from Gibson since the mid to late 1970's, which when taken into consideration with disproportionately high - some say gouged - pricing, belies the company's shortsightedness, greed and willingness to base their trade exclusively on speculation on past designs, rather than putting more resources into quality control over, say, costly Intellectual Property lawsuits with video game makers.
     
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    When I was a kid I saw Jimmy Paige with a Les Paul and that was all it took to make it a Gibson for me.
     
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    You beat me to it.
     
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    Which one is the Gibson?

    The ones being played at Sun Records by Rock 'n' Roll's real deals. Guys like Scotty Moore, and Carl Perkins!
     
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    I think Carl used a Bigsby made guitar almost exclusivly.
     
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    What about that "Switchmaster" ?;)

    And what guitar was it that the crazy guy doing the "duckwalk" was playing? LOL
     
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    +1. [​IMG]
     
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    I think you can say what you will and call it an opinion.Gibson has been building guitars since the late 1800's.You may have an issue with their QC,as one GP'er I know does.The Les Paul model is more consistent and better made now than at any other time in Gibson's history(I am not saying that there are no merits to 'the grail' guitars).Gibson is selling large numbers of guitars these days,or hadn't you noticed?
     

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