What options for playing without an amp?

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  1. therhodeo

    therhodeo Member

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    Now at a church who has a 0 stage noise policy. I like the tones I'm getting from my pedalboard and amp and would rather not have to go with a multieffect unit. Is there any sort of speaker sim/pre-amp that sounds somewhat similar to a tube amp?
     
  2. rogue.guineapig

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    are they running in-ears?
    buddy of mine is a P&W leader in a large church...they wanted
    0 stage noise...he still mics his guitar amp with success.
    If the stage volume is really low, sometimes you can get away with running
    the amp so low that only the mic hears it.
    Or is your stage/sanctuary area really small?
    Or do you have a crazy sound guy? :crazyguy
    The POD is a preamp for that situation...
    it's just not all that great. :(
     
  3. therhodeo

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    Well my amp is pretty loud and I don't really have the cash to get something smaller. They run in ears.
     
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    Try one of the new tech 21 pedals and use it like an amp. I haven't tried one yet, but some people have and say they like the tone/feel better than the digital modelers they'd been using.
     
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    take a look at the damage control womanizer.

    it's a tube preamp with a speaker sim / direct out.

    i use one on my pedalboard for my base clean sound, and use pedals for dirty sounds.
    It's also my backup for playing without an amp if i ever have to do that...
    i've used it for recording direct and the sounds are pretty good.
     
  7. Doug H

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    The main thing is you want an EQ that emulates the EQ curve of a speaker. I designed/built one for myself that works great (I play in church too, and got tired of carrying so much stuff to the gig), but there are commercial "speaker simulator" or "speaker emulator" products out there if you do some searching. If you like to build stuff for yourself, the DIY effects forums/sites have a lot of schematics for this kind of stuff too.
     
  8. rogue.guineapig

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    what kind of amp?
    I use a Classic 30, and it would work wonderfully in said situation.
    There's also smaller ones, like the 5W Blackhearts...
    either of those run about $250 if you look hard enough.
    Last I checked anyway.

    and do that too. ugh...0 stage noise...give the man a break!
     
  9. Doug H

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    One simple solution in a low stage noise situation is use a closed-back cab, point it backwards and mic it. I did that for a while at my church and it works real well too.
     
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    the vox tonelab's sound pretty damn good direct IMO.
     
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    You might also try a Magicstomp. I preferred that over the Line6 modelers.
     
  12. Gtrman100

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    I know you don't want to check out a multifx but you should try one of the newer generation Pods or Boss GT's (ducks behind boulder to avoid flamethrower). I've got a Pod X3L that I use through an amp, through a PA, or a powered monitor. It's got balanced XLR outputs or 1/4" outputs to go directly into a mixer.

    It sounds really good, very convincing, probably 90% of what you get from a tube amp. Check out the thread on Guitar101.com where you have to pick which one of 5 clips is the real tube amp. They're all very real sounding. And that's with an earlier generation of modeling technology. You don't need to be loud to get a decent sound.

    I love my stomp boxes and tube amps, but in your situation I'd definitely check out the Pod X3L, Boss GT-10 or any of the newest multifx out there.
     
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    My main reasoning is that I dont want to have to sit down and program a multifx. My ADD just doesnt cooperate when it comes to doing crap like that.
     
  14. TooManyHobbies

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    Hopefully by next NAMM :dudethere will be an amazing product out designed for those of us with pedalboards who want to go direct or in ear, etc. :AOK
     
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    After trying a Peavey Classic 50, a DRRI, a Bedrock 600 with a Weber attenuator, a H & K Red Box, a Behringer Ultra G, and a Fender Champ both onstage and off, I think I've settled on a Pod XT. I put some work in on finding a couple of good sounds I like with my pedalboard and the thing sounds really good.
     
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    DG Stomp? Next to the POD's I'm just really impressed with the Yamaha stuff.
     
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    I hope you won't think this inappropriate spam, but I've got an Award-Session JD-10 for sale in the Pedal Emporium. I was using it as a preamp/speaker emulator, but recently switched to a Pod XTLive. This JD-10 has the XLR output and is in excellent condition.
     
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    yes ... I scored a used one for dirt cheap and used it at a "no amps" gig ... found one good clean setting and one slightly dirty one and ran my pedals into it ... excellent tone, to my surprise, even my picky guitarplaying friends said so, LOL.:D
     
  20. Gtrman100

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    There are many bundles made by many users on the L6 site that you could download patches from. I'd even email you my patch bundle, and using Gearbox you could pick and choose the ones you like.

    But I know some guys aren't multifx types, that's cool. Hope you find the answer.
     

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