What the guitar companies don't want you to know...

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  1. skhan007

    skhan007 Supporting Member

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    Pretty interesting perspective from a wood worker/luthier on guitar builds and pricing...

    Not sure how I feel about his conclusions, as I have some nice guitars that I feel were worth the up-charge. Curious what you guys think...

     
  2. peskypesky

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    oh no. not this again.
     
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    He lost me in the first minute by saying absolutely nothing about nothing.
     
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    He lost me in 10 seconds by showing me that he had so little substantial to say that he had to use the model to attract attention.
     
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    I look at it the other way, the video kept my attention for 10 seconds :).
     
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    Seth L Silver Supporting Member

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    I understand why they don't want me to know, now.
     
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    Ummm, BS!!! All you have to do is play a D18 and a D28 back to back and you'll know that mahogany and rosewood sound different!
     
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    I'm glad that fella is around to clear things up for me. I was so confused.
     
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    I tried. Totally uninteresting. Lasted 5 minutes.
     
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    Damn, cat is out of the bag.
     
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    Love this guy, his rants are pretty epic. NSFW language in video.
     
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    Well they have different bracing. The D-18 is scalloped and forward shifted.

    I'm not sure he's talking about acoustic guitars though? But just electric?

    Anyway what I find interesting is the maple Taylor is using on some of their new guitars. In the past I've heard people say maple is too bright to use as back and sides on acoustic..doesn't sound nice blahblahblah...but all of a sudden Taylor releases some maple guitars and everyone's drooling?

    Makes me sometimes think how much of it really matters? :dunno
     
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    I think different woods sound different. And some woods cost more because they're rare.
     
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    They do sound different. I have a flame maple Tacoma DF21 and it is a bright sounding guitar. The day I bought it they had another D21 that was mahogany and was definitely a darker/warmer tone. Both had spruce tops and the same bracing.
     
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    "Eight pounds is like the weight of a fart; it doesn't do nothing to me."

    His eloquence really inspires confidence, that one. What are his qualifications anyway?
     
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    It's silly to think that all the guitar builders in the world have conspired to screw over all their customers, that everyone who hears a difference in different species of wood is deluding themselves.

    I made it as far as the part where he says that when describing woods' tone "it's all based on species, which, in and of itself, should tell you it's a fallacy."
     
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    He lost me at "Scott Grove." 25 seconds?
     
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    I saw this video on Youtube and I understand what is going wrong with his thinking; he thinks like an Accountant and not an Economist and a Business person.

    What I mean by that is for him the value of a guitar is the cost, this is how an accountant thinks. To elaborate if a guitar costs five hundred to make including the nebulous cost of labor (craftsmanship) it is worth around five hundred and you shouldn't pay a penny more. I'm an accountant and I can tell you accountants don't make the best Economist or Businessmen because they are taught to think like this for bookkeeping purposes.

    An Economist or Businessman approaches this problem from a different angle; they look at it from the point of view as cost is what it is to make a valuable product but the price or it's worth is ultimately determined by how valuable people think it is.

    For the Economist so long as people pay as much as they are willing to pay that is what the instrument is worth regardless of the cost of making it.

    What the Business person tries to do is inform people about the value of the product so people can value it as high as possible. It's not deceptive what the Business person does because a deceptive product will quickly be known as worthless it's just a matter of informing people that compared to the alternatives this is the best choice they can make.
     
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