What TS clone is the closest to the Jekyll and Hyde?

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  1. inscho

    inscho Senior Member

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    I love the TS808 side on my Jekyll and Hyde but I really don't use the other side at all, and I am trying to fit a pulsar trem onto my board but I can't with size and awkward shape of the Jekyll and Hyde.

    Can anyone who has played the Jekyll and Hyde recommend me a similar TS clone?

    I use a Epiphone Casino into a 67 Bandmaster

    thanks

    :AOK
     
  2. TheFlash

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    I've got a jacques tube blower for sale right now. Tube Screamer clone with bass and treble controls. Sounds great, but I'm liking my modded blues driver better, so I'm not using it any more. The tube blower is smaller than a boss pedal, so you should have no problem fitting it on your board.
     
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    I've red, maybe on the Reverend website, that their Drivetrain I or II , nowdiscontinued, is very similar to the 1st channel of the J&H, BECAUSE the designer is the same person

    :angel
     
  4. Rambo66

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    Why not just get a Tube Screamer? Why does it have to be a clone? I've hear great things about the TS7 Tone Lok.
     
  5. inscho

    inscho Senior Member

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    thats what I like to hear :BEER and they pretty inexpensive too...thanks!
     
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    build yourself a clone, over at www.buildyourownclone.com . my tuebscreamer sounds absolutely killer. plus, keith includes options for popular mods. you could switch things around until you find one that sounds perfect!
     
  7. b_rad

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    The Reverend Drive Train II is extremely similar.
     
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    ... and its the secret weapon of Ron Asheton, of The Stooges, he uses it in front of a Ts9 for over the top riffage
     
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    "over the top riffage"?
     
  10. inscho

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    reverend drivetrain II it is!

    how big is it?
     
  11. J Purcell

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    I had a Drivetrain 1 and it was almost the same size as a Visual Sound J&H pedal if I remember right.
    Great sounding TS type pedal though.
     
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    yeah, i'm french, but anyway, i find it pretty understandable, dont you ? :angel
     
  13. drolling

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    5 x 5 x 1 1/2 inches - pretty cool TS variant. I got mine second hand cheap, but they're getting harder to find since being discontinued.

    There's a couple of versions of the DTII, but it's a very simple mod to bring the older ones up to spec.
     
  14. inscho

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    thanks for the dimensions! I think I have a lead on one! :dude
     
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    The early ones have a single dot on the arrow beside the battery compartment. Later version has a double dot on the arrow. The only difference is a cap or resistor added to the circuit board - it's a cheap, simple mod that I got off the Reverend website; Tech bulletin no. 5.

    Good Luck!
     
  16. Mooncusser

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    Hey,
    Does any know what the right side of the jeckyll & Hyde is modeled after?
    I did get decent sounds out of the right side, but after ALOT of tweaking.
    I have heard a Marshall governor many time, but cannot verify.

    What say you?
    Thanks and take care,
    Mass
     
  17. StompBoxBlues

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    Hey, First off...I know what you mean. I LOVE my (older model) silver Jekyll & Hyde, and sometimes I do want to only have the one (or the other) side. It is NOT the same as a TS, or as most others, there is SOMETHING really slightly different about the left side of the J & H.

    Personally, I also agree completely about the right side being a little tougher to dial in (actually...for me it is tougher to decide how I want to use it. EQ control to the right it voices VERY Marshall like, just backed off a little makes big diff...and I often have to decide if I want to use it as just a boost, or real distortion) but really nice too.

    I played a Marshall Guv'nor pedal just for a short time and it seemed like it would be the best equivalent for the right side of the J & H.

    Another candidate for the left side substitution, is the Digitech "Tone Driver" OD pedal...it is one of the X-series, and is yellow, and it sounds damned good. "Bad Monkey" is cheaper and another alternative.

    One last, cannot go wrong with a Zendrive, though I wouldn't say it was the same as the OD on J & H, it is fantastic and definitely NOT a Ts-clone.
     
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    Having reversed this pedal and in my dealings with Bob from VS, the overdrive actually is a slightly modified ts808 and the distortion is similar to a shredmaster with a different tonestack.

    bw
     
  19. drolling

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    Yes, for 39 bucks the BadMonkey's about as good as it gets, but like the Reverend DT2 we've been discussing in this thread, having both hi and lo controls automatically takes it off the table when considering TS clones in the strictest sense.

    It's the overall voicing of these pedals that brings them into TS territory - you know, the attenuated bass and treble response, along w/the infamous mid-hump..

    And that's what I hear when I plug in a Zendrive.. I've even dialed in the gain and tone controls to the same 'sweet-spot' I've had my old MJM BluesDevil set at for years. I've always used tubescreamers for lead tones, as the 'clean-boost' tone from this circuit's never appealed to me.

    But I do appreciate the 'voice' control on the Zen. Reminds me of the presence knob on my old blackface fenders, and to me, it's the one thing that really sets it apart from the pack
     
  20. inscho

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    I found that the Bad Monkey was a lot "smoother" than the ts808 side of the jekyll and hyde...I secured a deal on a drivetrain II, we will see how close it is :BEER
     

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