What was TGP generally wrong about? (pedal predictions, clones, etc)

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  1. ry-guy

    ry-guy Member

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    Yeah, he's secretly Jack Black.
     
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  2. OotMagroot

    OotMagroot Supporting Member

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    Um....yes....
     
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  3. InAbsentia

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    Do you have a link anywhere? I tried searching for it but couldn't find it.
     
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    Oh man, this. A guy posted a thread yesterday about wanting a simple, cheap, non-programmable true bypass looper with clickless switches. 90% of the thread was people suggesting the Boss ES-8. Even after he specified, no, that's not what I want, people kept on posting it.
     
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    Illogical ethnocentricities.
    People complaining about pedals being sold from overseas then being too lazy to do the paperwork to sell their pedal overseas
     
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  6. Trebor Renkluaf

    Trebor Renkluaf I was hit by a parked car, what's your excuse? Silver Supporting Member

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    If you like Silver Burst Les Paul's, you're wrong.
    If you like Antigua Fenders, you're wrong.
    If you think Clapton sounds better on a Fender, you're wrong.
    If you prefer Ginger over Maryanne, you're wrong. If you prefer Maryanne over Ginger, you're wrong. Jeannie smokes the both of 'em!
     
  7. TEPR

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    These are objective facts, however.

     
  8. jimk4003

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    Also, people who wade in halfway through an interesting, detailed discussion on gear, and say something along the lines of:

    "Guy's, stop obsessing about this stuff and go play your guitar!"

    Ordinarily, a perfectly sound piece of advice. But probably not on a forum called 'The Gear Page'.
     
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  9. Muzik4Machines

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    are you sure about that lol, those things run on technology so outdated NASA sometimes had to buy 8086 processors on Ebay to keep things running, they willfully use super outdated technology cause once it is tested enough to be accepted, it's usually 4-5 generations late
     
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  10. ERGExplorer

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    You *can* patent a circuit, but it has to be novel *and* not obvious.

    For example, let's say someone filed a patent application for a new power generator. It is capable of generating enough electricity to power a small home. The patent reveals that the circuit uses three transistors and two capacitors wired in a non-standard way, something everyone assumed wouldn't work. The circuit would be patentable because no one would have tried it (not obvious because it violates what everyone assumes is true) and novel (no other generator like it is in existence).

    There *have* been novel circuits, using non-standard topologies for example, which have been granted patents.

    I think you're trying to say it's unlikely the circuitry in most guitar pedals would qualify as novel and not obvious, given the amount of previous art. As a lot of pedals are based on the application notes published by component manufacturers to encourage adoption, and therefore sales, of their components, you're probably right... until someone makes that weird discovery.
     
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  11. amz-fx

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    A collection of patents related to circuits for amps, pedals, and audio:

    http://www.muzique.com/misc/patents.htm

    Tom Scholz, for example, had numerous patents on circuits related to the Rockman boxes.

    Best regards, Jack
     
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  12. Auditory Driving

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    I was about to mention Tom Scholz as well - what a great musician and engineer - a rare combination.

    Also, hi Jack and given the chance thanks for all your excellent efforts :) :)
     
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    The operative word is "had". Patents expire relatively quickly, 15 years in most cases.

    Circuit designs generally can't be copyrighted. People often confuse copyrights with patents.
     
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    Just rest the headstock of your guitar on an interior door and that's what transparent sounds like.
     
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  15. Whiskey N Beans

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    That you can't build an analog polyphonic octaver shimmer device. One member is well on the way to proving TGP is too set in its ways and closed minded to endure. I'm very exciting of that.
     
  16. nerdbot

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    • True bypass
    • Alpha drive
    • "Tone" of cables, other than differences in capacitance.
     
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  17. ERGExplorer

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    @bgmacaw , I can't figure out what you're trying to say.

    Are you stating that because Tom Scholz' patents have expired, that one can no longer patent a circuit? Why would "had" be the operant word in such a case? (Incidentally, circuits can still be patented, even though those for the Rockman have expired, which is why I can't figure out what you're trying to say.)

    Incidentally, no one in this topic mentioned copyrights before you just did. Why did you bring them up out of the blue? Now *that* was confusing.
     
  18. ERGExplorer

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    I'm waiting so hard on this.
     
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  19. aman74

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    Someone is cracking this nut? Would love to see that!
     
  20. Whiskey N Beans

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    Or maybe this is one of those instances TGP got it right. Not judging. Best thread ever.
     

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