What was your last straw? (quitting band content)

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Just curious what other people's last straw moment was. My most recent was when another member admitted that he went out of his way to play head games with me, just to see what I would do. (This is a founding member, so me staying and him leaving was not an option.)

What's your moment, and, maybe more importantly, what are you willing/not willing to put up with to be in a band and play the music?
Was his name Ritchie blackmore?
 

MountainCraft

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Why, they are all rock stars, doncha know!
Well as a guitar player, I gotta keep the stereotypes alive, ya know! It's my duty! :crazyguy




I played in gospel groups, in so called "Christian rock" bands, and in churches as well as ran sound in a church for a number of years.
Never again. I never experienced egos and head games like I did in the "Christian" realm.
I always got treated a hell of a lot better playing biker bars than I did in churches.
I still have very strong Christian beliefs, but I will not set foot in a church now. They tended to too much of a burden on my spirituality.
The last church I went to, within the time period of six months, I seen the church board run the pastor off , who was a very good dedicated guy, then all of them left themselves. They replaced the preacher with a kid right out of seminary, he proceeded to bring in musicians and a worship leader from a huge mega TV ministry church and they were the most arrogant rude nasty people I ever met. Inside of a year the church was empty and a different preacher came in but could not save the fiasco. All the music team had left ( including me) and even the churches founders wife left.
Today the place is an illegal alien day care center.

Being a musician in churches means being behind the scenes and seeing what really goes on, unfortunately.

It is kind of interesting that bikers are among the most benevolent people on the planet and are always doing poker runs and having huge bashes to raise money for people who have health issues or are down and out for some other reason.
I feel like I am practicing my faith better by playing the places I do now than I ever did in churches.
Winners and losers in all crowds... I've been in a several year long period of 'tired of and too lazy for' church.. But the LORD is the LORD regardless of what I do or don't, and this or that church does or doesn't do... He still has my heart.. in spite of me...

Politics, pride, gossip, and misunderstanding get mixed in with everything.. I like the teaching/preaching parts, the worship parts, but most everything else, well... I got burned out.. Volunteerism sometimes comes with a sign you wear that says 'kick me'...


but yeah.. I hear what you're saying loud and clear.. on both fronts.. Case in point.. Look at who Jesus hung out with, and who He didn't...
 
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MountainCraft

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Saw them booed off the stage at a reggae festival many years ago. I thought they were great and was pissed, though i would have left too if i were them.

Some people just don't know a good thing, even when it's slapping them right upside the head!

That's kind of been my life story when it comes to women... :bonk
 

TheGuildedAge

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Last band was an amicable split.

He moved to Nashville, I could not go with.

Within a month, he was opening for headliners, getting our music in movies, and networking like crazy. If only I met him 10 years earlier!
 

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Winners and losers in all crowds... I've been in a several year long period of 'tired of and too lazy for' church.. But the LORD is the LORD regardless of what I do or don't, and this or that church does or doesn't do... He still has my heart.. in spite of me...

Politics, pride, gossip, and misunderstanding get mixed in with everything.. I like the teaching/preaching parts, the worship parts, but most everything else, well... I got burned out.. Volunteerism sometimes comes with a sign you wear that says 'kick me'...


but yeah.. I hear what you're saying loud and clear.. on both fronts.. Case in point.. Look at who Jesus hung out with, and who He didn't...
I had quit going for a while before I went to the place that was the final straw.
The only reason I started going there was because it was the only church around where the preacher wasn't abusing the pulpit to preach his political ideals.
It was a very strange situation, because it was the same at every different denomination or gospel group or Christian rock band I was part of or had exposure to. As if you had to take a universal test to be "in".

As a side note, I had a guy in a Christian chat room dog me about the fact I was playing music in private clubs that served booze and bars. He was relentless.
I finally asked him what he did for a living. His response was "I manufacture paint", and I said, "So I suppose that means you only make paint that is sold to guys who are painting churches or rectories". He said "no, it doesn't work that way".
I said, "either it DOES work that way or one of us is a hypocrite".
He never mentioned it again.
 

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Huh. Not in any way relevant to the topic, but interesting that you would point this out.
The intent was to point out the irony of it changing from a house of worship into a place that catered to criminals.
 
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MountainCraft

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Religious posts deleted. Post within the rules please.

Thought that might happen, although I would have preferred the opportunity to edit it.. (took a while to type out).. ;)

Still trying to decipher where the lines are as some such content seems to be allowed, but I understand that it's kind of a case by case thing..
 

MountainCraft

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I had quit going for a while before I went to the place that was the final straw.
The only reason I started going there was because it was the only church around where the preacher wasn't abusing the pulpit to preach his political ideals.
It was a very strange situation, because it was the same at every different denomination or gospel group or Christian rock band I was part of or had exposure to. As if you had to take a universal test to be "in".

As a side note, I had a guy in a Christian chat room dog me about the fact I was playing music in private clubs that served booze and bars. He was relentless.
I finally asked him what he did for a living. His response was "I manufacture paint", and I said, "So I suppose that means you only make paint that is sold to guys who are painting churches or rectories". He said "no, it doesn't work that way".
I said, "either it DOES work that way or one of us is a hypocrite".
He never mentioned it again.

Well, I had typed out a long reply and carefully edited it, but I guess it went too far and it got round filed thusly by the powers that be.. :D

But let me say that it's all part of the human condition.. Everybody is a hypocrite to one degree or another, only differing in severity, frequency, and area of expertise.. I have met some of the sweetest people ever in church, and also some of the biggest jerks.. Likewise, I can say the same about Bikers, or places of employment, or any other place that consists of people...

But I'm kinda burnt out on church and volunteerism in general (at least for now)... Gonna focus on 'music'.. Much less contention around that subject, although some people can get pretty judgmental about even that.. Not burnt out on what I believe, just the social manifestation of all that..

I'll hang out, play with, or party with just about anyone/anywhere as long as it's safe/fun.. church, bars, out in the fields (notice the Gary Moore plug there..:p), at home, over the internet (if I had the bandwidth and know how), and I'm not going to lose my belief system because of any of it.. Don't like arguing anymore.. Used to love it, but the way things are now, it's not fun anymore... at all... I think I developed an allergy to it or something because of FaceBook..:(

(hopefully this version is more acceptable)
 
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Sombras

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We dont 'watch' posts. If something breaks the rules, please report it.
Don't assume moderators approve or read every post please.
Thanks. I did report the earlier post referring to "greasers." I didn't go back to see whether that was deleted, but that's as bad as I've seen on this forum and hope it was addressed.
 

Hofnarr

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Thanks. I did report the earlier post referring to "greasers." I didn't go back to see whether that was deleted, but that's as bad as I've seen on this forum and hope it was addressed.
Good job reporting it; unfortunately, it's still there.
 

Sombras

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Good job reporting it; unfortunately, it's still there.
Bummer–and thanks for looking.

Moderators? You've already addressed religious content. Great. I'm assuming the ethnic slur "greasers" is not okay. I reported it. Where you at on this???
 
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Rockledge

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Thanks. I did report the earlier post referring to "greasers." I didn't go back to see whether that was deleted, but that's as bad as I've seen on this forum and hope it was addressed.
What could possibly be wrong with "greasers"? It is like "hippies" and "beatnicks", it merely refers to a clothing and hairstyle of the 50s and 60s, mostly referring to guys who kept Brylcream in business.
Shanana was known as a "greaser" band because they played doowop and goose greased their hair.
I greased my hair and wore a ducktail before I let my hair grow out and was considered a hippie. I was called a greaser then. And was proud of it. I fail to see a good reason for anyone to whine about such terminology.
 

rednoise

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I fail to see a good reason for anyone to whine about such terminology.
I guess I have to give you the benefit of a doubt and operate under the assumption that you don't know it's an slur against those of Mexican ethnicity (though your mention that his mother was Mexican Indian makes me wonder...) Now do you understand why someone would "whine"?
 

Hofnarr

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I guess I have to give you the benefit of a doubt and operate under the assumption that you don't know it's an slur against those of Mexican ethnicity (though your mention that his mother was Mexican Indian makes me wonder...) Now do you understand why someone would "whine"?
Exactly. One of the word's senses is unquestionably racist.

The post referred to is very strange though - seems to be some sort of riff on Ritchie Valens' short career. I think it's ironically meant, but I'm not entirely sure. In any case, the exact status of the word "greaser" is perhaps ambiguous here - Valens was Mexican American, of course, so it's pretty obvious to read "greaser" as a slur; at the same time, "greaser" (in the non-ethnic sense of the word) subculture, was, I guess (not too conversant in this chapter of cultural history) flourishing around Valens' time, so this is another possible interpretation. (No idea if Valens was associated with this subculture; maybe somebody can clear this up). It's all a bit confusing (and I have a suspicion that creating confusion may have been the poster's goal - but I could be wrong).

In any case, this thread is about band stories, so why don't why we all cut this crap and stick to the theme? To put it another way: this is a great thread, so let's not be jackasses and ruin it, eh?
 

Sombras

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Thank you Hofnarr and rednoise. As someone of Mexican descent, I’m happy to share a message board with others who have the character to step up in this situation.
 
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