what year les paul??

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  1. crzyfngers

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    a guy came to a jam with this last night. he couldn't/wouldn't tell me what year it was. crotchety old man. can anyone tell from this crappy cell phone pic?
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    Not by that crappy cell phone pic, no.
     
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    i'll try to do better next time.
     
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    Best you can do is sneak a peak at the serial number.
    A 3 pickup Custom with a Bigsby - can't be too many of those out there though!
     
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    i tried. it was too dark and i'm too old.:D
     
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    Looks like it has the wide lapel TRC, wide bevel pickguard, and reflectors... so it very well could be a 1960, or a reissue. Although, from that pic, the last inlay looks correct for a real deal '60. Need a better pic though.
     
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    the binding was nice and yellow, checking on the body, i think she was the real deal.
     
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    I can't say for sure because of the crappy pic, but the headstock shape looks like a RI from this century.
     
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    Definitely a 1962!
     
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    wow.
    that would make it extremely rare, as there were no more original issue black beauties produced after 1961.
     
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    At a second glance, you're right!
     
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    dammit. now i have to wait until next monday to figure it out. i'll take a flashlight.
     
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    I was kidding the second time BTW. Where in Texas are you?
     
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    the only place in texas. austin. the rest of it is desert.
     
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    The most telling items from that otherwise worthless blurry pic I think are the tuners and pick-up covers.

    The tuners look to be gold-plated metal tuners. I'd have to look up what years used the metal tuners vs. the plastic covered tuners.

    The other thing that stands out are the pick-up covers, which I'm guessing are gold-plated with the gold completely warn off? Or are those nickel covers?

    Since he is a "crotchety old man" who doesn't want to tell you the year, it might be a vintage guitar. Presumably either a historic reissue that is several years old, or possibly the real deal. I would think the headstock split diamond inlay would be more yellow if it were vintage, but I'm no expert and it is a lousy pic.

    You might want to compare with the pics of this vintage guitar:

    http://elderly.com/vintage/items/30U-14093.htm
     
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    nickel tuners and covers. nice patina on the covers and the bigsby.
     
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    Tuners look to be Grovers, which would be correct for a late 50's or 1960 model. The 1961 model sported the new SG shape, if I'm not mistaken. And the Grovers weren't adopted till '58. Most had gold plated hardware, but there were some done it nickel plate. So, without the serial #, I'd have to say a true '58-60. Here's Jimmy's:

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    On second look, and comparing it to Jimmy's, I'd say a 1960. The volume and tone knobs have reflectors. The earlier models didn't. But the truss rod cover should say Les Paul Custom. And the one in the OP's picture looks to be blank. Of course, that could be a replacement.
     
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