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What's a "good" Rat?

What Rat am I looking for?

  • An old Rat with the LM308 chip

    Votes: 26 61.9%
  • Whiteface Rat (explain to me what these are)

    Votes: 8 19.0%
  • A new Rat is fine, but have Keeley mod it

    Votes: 5 11.9%
  • Some other variation I'm forgetting

    Votes: 6 14.3%

  • Total voters
    42
  • Poll closed .

UrbanHymns

Silver Supporting Member
Messages
2,375
For the last 12 years I've owned a 1988 Rat 2. But 6 months ago, I foolishly sold it. Now I want a Rat again. So I went to GC yesterday and picked up a new one - it doesn't sound anything like my old Rat. It's way too brittle.

So what should I be looking for?
 

john l

Silver Supporting Member
Messages
2,821
I have a big box reisue from the 90s I think. Its got the 308 chip in it and sounds killer. The differences between models is what diodes they use for clipping generally.
 

guitargod2u

Member
Messages
432
For the last 12 years I've owned a 1988 Rat 2. But 6 months ago, I foolishly sold it. Now I want a Rat again. So I went to GC yesterday and picked up a new one - it doesn't sound anything like my old Rat. It's way too brittle.

So what should I be looking for?
try again i say i've seen shoot outs of both a old one and new china made one i could not tell a difference. I think people hear with there eyes more than there ears. Throw it down your stairs some so it gets all dinged up. With it looking like a older unit i'll bet the brittleness you claim it has will go away :bonk
 

guitargod2u

Member
Messages
432
forgot to mention i get yearly hearing tests done too. I'm not saying my word is god, but i have pretty near perfect hearing. I work in loud factory so its mandatory to make sure i have been wearing my ear plugs so i don't have hearing loss. The LM308N or whatever the chip is will not make that much of a difference.

its like in the jack white thread. The man himself uses a stock nyc reissue big buff pi and more recently a tone wicker version and like almost everyone is recommending a higher costing clone to people to get his sound. :facepalm
 

calmepeter

Member
Messages
49
forgot to mention i get yearly hearing tests done too. I'm not saying my word is god, but i have pretty near perfect hearing. I work in loud factory so its mandatory to make sure i have been wearing my ear plugs so i don't have hearing loss. The LM308N or whatever the chip is will not make that much of a difference.

its like in the jack white thread. The man himself uses a stock nyc reissue big buff pi and more recently a tone wicker version and like almost everyone is recommending a higher costing clone to people to get his sound. :facepalm
sure there's no flat mids mod on that?
 

LouRossi

Member
Messages
2,111
I have the 1986 blackface and it just sounds so much better then any other RAT I've tried/owned: Keeley, Duce, R2DU, Tubro, RAT2 etc. I'd like to comapre it w/ a whiteface reissue though
 

LPMojoGL

Music Room Superstar
Silver Supporting Member
Messages
9,126
I prefer RATT - Invasion of Your Privacy.
Tasty cassette tape cover. Mmmmm.

 

JP~)

Member
Messages
1,266
For the last 12 years I've owned a 1988 Rat 2. But 6 months ago, I foolishly sold it. Now I want a Rat again. So I went to GC yesterday and picked up a new one - it doesn't sound anything like my old Rat. It's way too brittle.

So what should I be looking for?
You could look for one from the late 80's with a missing battery cover. They can be had for about half the price
 
Messages
6,881
I've used:

90's USA big box, with LM308n
90's USA Rat2, flat top, OP-07
00's USA Rat2, slant top, OP-07
00's USA Turbo, modded to non-turbo, LM308n
'11 Whiteface Reissue., LM-308n


They all sound different. The whiteface is the friendlest/least brittle. 2nd favorite would be the turbo modded to regular rat2 specs. smooth, but more aggressive than the whiteface.
 

bshields

Member
Messages
486
I like my regular rat 2...the board member from here from Proco said rats vary a lot even within like models. Two rat2s might sound really different
 

Veritas

Gold Supporting Member
Messages
2,936
I've owned quite a few different Rats over the years, and my favorites are my '86 Rat, and '89 Turbo Rat. Just an FYI, but Keeley doesn't mod the newer Rat2's anymore. He doesn't like the construction of them, so he won't mod them. He has a write-up about it on his website, explaining it all in detail. He also lists the eras that he will mod...
 

guitargod2u

Member
Messages
432
I've owned quite a few different Rats over the years, and my favorites are my '86 Rat, and '89 Turbo Rat. Just an FYI, but Keeley doesn't mod the newer Rat2's anymore. He doesn't like the construction of them, so he won't mod them. He has a write-up about it on his website, explaining it all in detail. He also lists the eras that he will mod...
i checked last week he mods them just charges more money... i prefer my stock china made one though don't see any reason to change it.
 




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