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What's with the horribly abrasive comments?

RocksOff

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That Jack White thread that just got closed has made me wonder: how do people justify calling someone that they've never met a 'piece of ****'?

Man, there are a lot of guitar players that I think suck, or are idiots... But calling them out by name with such extreme commentary is just bizarre. If they schtuped your wife... Yeah. Maybe they ran your dog over on purpose... Sure. But based on something they did or didn't do on a stage???
Seriously?
 

DGTCrazy

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The anonymity of the Internet allows anyone to act "badly". Funny thing is though, on Forum's where you have to use your Real Name.....it happens a lot less:)
 

A-Bone

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Some people express themselves artlessly. And some people are just assholes.
 

Guitar Josh

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That Jack White thread that just got closed has made me wonder: how do people justify calling someone that they've never met a 'piece of ****'?

Man, there are a lot of guitar players that I think suck, or are idiots... But calling them out by name with such extreme commentary is just bizarre. If they schtuped your wife... Yeah. Maybe they ran your dog over on purpose... Sure. But based on something they did or didn't do on a stage???
Seriously?
Spoken like someone who didn't waste $40 on a concert.
 

coldfingaz

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Bob Dylan did something similar at the Beacon Theater on the Oh Mercy tour. Played 45- 50 minutes, seemed disinterested or mildly annoyed, might not have said a single word to the crowd all night, exited stage left & kept walking out to the street where he hailed a cab & apparently went to his hotel.

I'm kinda glad Twitter didn't exist back then, but I understand why any concert-goer would be disappointed after paying for a show like that. People go to concerts often to escape their own ********, and they would get fired from their own jobs if they acted like that.
 

jammybastard

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IMHO one of our fellow TGP members "Shiny McShine" said it best in the JW thread...

But here's the bottom line, if you really have found your voice, if you can play a beautiful melody or set of chords and articulate them with finesse, if you are really musical, and most importantly,
if you actually have real creative ideas, you'll lose this vitriolic need to attack anyone who doesn't hold your values about guitar.

You'll just see some approaches you relate to and some you don't.

You won't need to be angry because you'll realize that anger was coming from your own inability to actually play music from your soul.
Amen.
 

sacakl

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Well this isn't the first I've heard of such a thing in the annals of rock and roll history. At least he played at least an hour before saying screw it. Wonder what tonight's show will be like.
 

RocksOff

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@Guitar josh:
I've definitely felt like I've wasted money at a show or two before. I didn't, however, start crying about it to interwebz people. I just chalked it up to the possibility of a bad night for the band/performer, or made a decision to read reviews before purchasing tickets to that artist's next tour.

All things considered, people often have expectations that exceed reality. That is their fault and no one else's.
 

Grant Ferstat

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Someone once said to me don't post anything on the internet you wouldn't want attributed to you on the front page of a big distribution newspaper. I reckon' that's pretty good advice.
 

Snowdog

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The anonymity of the Internet allows anyone to act "badly". Funny thing is though, on Forum's where you have to use your Real Name.....it happens a lot less:)

Not to be argumentative - but I get really tired of the "internet tough-guy" thing. If anything, I think the anonymity allows folks to say what they truly feel - without the repercussions that would follow in the real world. That is actually a good thing. Instead of being forced to agree/disagree with someone's opinion just so that you can be feel like you belong, the anonymity of the internet let's you free yourself from society's norms. A lot of folks out there are afraid to actually speak their minds in public discourse.

Also - this is a DISCUSSION board. That means that people are encouraged to offer their opinions. You may or may not agree with their opinions, but isn't that what discussion is all about? To hear differing opinions on subjects? I know that I have changed my opinion on a few topics after some lively debates here on The Gear Page. Yes, some of these opinions could be presented with more civility, but not all folks are that "refined". And, sometimes, crude and course language gets your point across.
 

russ6100

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...I think the anonymity allows folks to say what they truly feel - without the repercussions that would follow in the real world. That is actually a good thing. Instead of being forced to agree/disagree with someone's opinion just so that you can be feel like you belong, the anonymity of the internet let's you free yourself from society's norms. A lot of folks out there are afraid to actually speak their minds in public discourse.
Well I'm not anonymous and I've never felt forced to agree/disagree with someone's opinion just so that I can be feel like I belong, or feel at all hemmed in by society's norms.

The down-side of anonymity is that you can say whatever you want with zero responsibility - you don't have to own what you say, which is usually not a good thing.

For as many times as someone uses the cloak of anonymity to be able to speak freely about a topic, there's just as many instances of some anonymous yahoo posting non-constructive drive-by insults, and arguing points they actually don't believe just for fun, maybe to flex their debating muscles or just get a rise out of someone.
 

gmann

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I think people should wait to say such bad things before they actually know the real reason... the whole "he didn't like his sound" thing was speculation from a security person. Jack White has said before in interviews that he always wants to put on a good enough show to feel like he earned the money. I bet something's wasn't right.
As for feelin' like he earned the money I would bet he didn't give any back.
 






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