What's your favorite speaker in a BFDR?

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  1. mbratch

    mbratch Member

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    Inquiring minds want to know...
     
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    Mid 60's Jensen C12N
     
  3. fast ricky love

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    Well if you do a search you'll find quite a few differing opinions on the subject. Favs generally are a Weber F150, Red Fang, Cannibus Rex and the Jensen mentioned.

    I was on the search for the right speaker myself recently and really like the Cannibus Rex. BUT I just got a Scumback with a larger cone than their usual G12H30 version and it sounds wonderful!! Gotta see how it works at volume with our band but so far it's pretty killer...
     
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    Thanks. I actually have an old Jensen C12Q (probably pre-1965) I'm thinking of reconing. I have the C12N (modern version), which is OK but somewhat trebly in some ways.
     
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    Do you mean larger dust cap?

    That is, the Scumback H75-LHDC? Did you get it in the 30 watt or 65 watt version?

    Does Jim make this speaker available with 8 mounting holes?
     
  6. DANOCASTER

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    Well for COUNTRY, the JBL would be nice.

    But if you like gainier things like overdrives, boosts, and fuzz - I'd steer clear of the JBL

    I have a pretty amazing sounding '64 Deluxe Reverb. The best speaker I've had in it is a Reverend Alltone. I dont like that speaker in everything but everyone who has ever played /borrowed my deluxe ( and owns one themselves ) has gone looking for a Reverend

    A perfect mix of American and Brit in a single spk !!
     
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    How would a Weber 12F150 or the Reverend Alltone compare to the modern Jensen C12N (which is what I have in there now)?
     
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    I dont know the weber but the Alltone has more Volume and headroom - more bottom and less "fizzy" highs. Not as much spk breakup as the Jensen would give you. It certainly makes the amp ALOT more pedal friendly - and gig friendly.

    With the Jensen and pedals, at some point (and usually EARLY ON ) - it just doesnt get any louder w/ pedals because the spk is compressing so much. With the Reverend - you step on a LOUD pedal and it'll get you over the band - the Jensen would only make you more distorted ( and probably blow up the spk )
     
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    D'oh! I did mean larger dust cap... and that is the speaker I got in the 30 watt. The Cannibus Rex is a fantastic speaker, but I wanted a bit more speaker breakup so I thought I'd give the Scumback a go. And they all come with 8 mounting holes so no worries there.

    Unfortunately we need to find a new bass player in our band so I'm not sure how soon I'll be able to play the DR w/the Scumback out... :rolleyes:
     
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    Especially if you like to crank the amp and enjoy the sound of thin sheetmetal being scratched with a file to be mixed in with your distortion. Junk But Loud for sure.
     
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    :p

    I can hear that! Not my cup of tea either...
     
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    Weber Blue Dog!
     
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    +1 for the Blue Dog. Just bought a sweet-pie '66 BFDR from a friend and it had the re-issue 50w C12 ceramic in it....ice pick central. Popped a 30w Blue dog in it and it is now my favorite amp. Great speaker.
     
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    Weber ceramic silver bell, 50 watt.I have a batch of original Jensens;P12Q, P12P, C12Q, C12P, C12N.I tried the Vintage 30 and the G1230H but the Weber has a better bass and the highs are real smooth.And I tried a blue Dog alnico 50, which was nice, but the silver bell takes the cake. :AOK
     
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    Eminence Red White & Blues or Tonker for more Clean Headroom
     
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    Ceramic or Alnico?
     
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    All of my speakers come with 8 mounting holes in the frame. I couldn't alienate the Fender players!

    FRL, glad to hear that speaker is working out in your amp! :JAM
     
  19. Jon Silberman

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    The Reverend Alltone is basically a Jensen design but with a British cone. I like 'em alot, I have one in my Hellhound combo, a second in my Cage one-off Bandmaster clone combo. They are not the "most" at anything, they're not the loudest/most efficient, not the bassiest, not the chimiest, not the trebliest. They're simply balanced and musical across the board.
     
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    I don't agree. He was asking about comparing the Alltone with a NEW Jensen C12N. The new ones are very efficient ( loud ) and are somewhat bright until well broken in. The Alltone is a terrific speaker but not as loud and will push into distortion sooner. I like the Alltone in a BFDR. I would agree with you if you are comparing to a VINTAGE C12N.

    Dan
     

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