Just to add... the two main culprits that should send anyone to “bad 80’s jail” are chorusing and unorganic amp processing. I may be biased as I was unable to ever make a slaved head hooked to a dummy load or speaker buried in a padded anvil case sound $15 bucks better than a Rockman, so I moved past that pretty quickly to Boogie Studio and Quad preamps and VHT power amps. Still, nobody else except as I mentioned Landau, made slaved heads sound good either imo. Slaved heads into a dummy load just kill the dynamics. This discussion has led me for the first time in quite a while to have a listen to Tales and the dirt sounds aren’t anywhere near as dynamic as ML actually plays. I’ve heard him play I’m Buzzed live probably 50 times over the years and he hasn’t aimed for anything close to the original sound in decades. That said, I think my favorite sounding rig of his was when he was using a Marshall, CAE or Dumble into a 2x12 or 4x12 and his little rack with a few pedals and a Lexicon MPX for stereo reverb into a couple of 10” speaker cabs. All in all pedals are a more organic and dynamic guitar sound. I’m not against rack gear - I still have and use an Eventide DSP7500, DSP4000, Lexicon PCM96 and PCM70 all the time while I mix. Anytime I try running them into a guitar speaker though, my hair starts to form a Flock of Seaguls doo which for me is a big don’t lol.