Where are you guys (successfully) selling high end acoustics these days?

Discussion in 'Acoustic Instruments' started by enroper, Jul 25, 2011.

  1. enroper

    enroper Member

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    So I'm trying to sell a primo J-45 on craigslist, and it's been sitting for weeks with only one bite that didn't work out ( lost out to a martin ) . It's been sitting on the emporium here for a little while as well with nothing.

    I don't feel comfortable selling online and shipping such a high end and fragile instrument. Any suggestions?

    I don't _think_ I'm asking too much either, but I could be wrong. Not sure what the rules are on linking to emporium posts in other forums, so I'll just say find it yourself and let me know what you think...
     
  2. Jahn

    Jahn Listens to Johnny Marr, plays like John Denver Supporting Member

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    when i sold/traded mine, it was here and on UMGF. if they didn't move, i just put them on consignment for a good price in one of the local stores and they moved. of course the local stores here are NYC so there was plenty of traffic looking at them.
     
  3. enroper

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    Hmm, I'm worried the same thing I experienced at a guitar show will happen at a guitar shop. Went to one last week, so I'm looking for 1800-2000 for my j45. Got constantly lowballed. One guy told me, he would basically be looking to sell it for 2200, and only willing to buy it for 1400. I'm not taking a $800 loss, thats insane. These are guitars, not used cars...
     
  4. go7

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    Try the acoustic guitar forum .
    Good luck.
     
  5. pickaguitar

    pickaguitar 2011 TGP Silver Medalist

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    UMGF & Craigslist for me. Nearly everything I sell on Craigslist goes within a week.

    Note...a used guitar no matter what condition should not be worth more than 50-60% of the new price unless it's real vintage.
    Example...my Martin D28 Marquis new was around 5k. If I sold it today I would sell for about 2500-2900
     
  6. lamenlovinit

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    Nope. They are less essential than cars. or a house. Checked home prices recently? Not trying to be jerky. Just that it's a great time to be a buyer, if you're one of the folks who have money laying about, and a crappy time to be a seller. To you they are lowballs, but I guarantee you they have either bought a guitar exactly like yours for that price, or have a seen bunch exactly like yours go for that price.

    Sit tight if you can. If you must sell you are at the Market's mercy. I sincerely wish you the best of luck. I've been super lucky and bought ridiculously low in the past (1/3 below market at the time) and if I went to sell I'd either break even, or maybe see a couple $100 profit. Considering at the time the reaction by everyone to what I paid was "Dude! You STOLE that!" I'm blown away that I'll just get my money back. Possibly lose on shipping. I'm currently sitting on 2 guitars I'd love to sell right now because they aren't being played.

    Edited to add: And let's not forget, the money I paid for them was "worth a lot more" than the monopoly money we've been printing the last couple of years. Not a political statement. Note I said "WE'VE BEEN PRINTING". I'm not pointing fingers!
     
  7. Fendegibs

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    maybe be willing to ship it and you'll find more buyers?
     
  8. enroper

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    I don't want to take such a financial risk on scammers...if it was a $300 guitar, sure. but almost $2k I just dont have if somebody f's me.
     
  9. UrbanHymns

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    1. Request payment via Paypal or money order BEFORE shipping.
    2. Be willing to ship (i.e. sell on eBay).
    3. When you do ship, spare no expense in making sure it's packed nicely.

    I sold a vintage Epiphone Casino on Craigslist a few years ago, and had to pay something like $60 to get it shipped. But hey, I sold it for my asking price.
     
  10. lamenlovinit

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    It's scary as HELL! to ship a $2k guitar. Until you ship a $3k one...:)

    What I'm saying is I've been there starting at $500 way back when, and the last one I shipped was in $3k zone. Kind of goes back to what I said earlier about losing money on shipping. If you pay to have professionally packed, it will probably cost $70. but what you get out of that is the piece of mind that they then can't refuse coverage on the insurance because you didn't pack it well enough. Again. Just one more expense, but some piece of mind.

    As someone else said. Protect yourself as much as you can on the frontend from scammers, protect yourself by paying for packaging and insurance. So many of us have done it with NO problems ever. I've never been screwed or had a damaged piece. I'm not the only one.
     
  11. Dotneck

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    For one thing, its an odd model. Granted its a J-45 but most people would be skeptical of the export to Japan story...but I know they had a series built for the Japanese market that stayed in the US. I played one in a shop about a month ago. It was a nice guitar but I never got a sell price on it so I can't determine if your price is right. Without comparables I'd be reluctant to make an offer.

    But I'll tell you this about price. Everything sells if the price is right. If it ain't selling...the price ain't right.

    Second, if you limit yourself to local sales you are excluding most of the folks who would be interested in buying a specialty guitar. Especially when you advertise in places with national and international readers (TGP).

    People ship acoustic guitars all the time. How do you think it got from Montana to Philadelphia?

    So if you want your price and want to sell it locally...then be prepared to wait for the right guy to walk down your street. If you want to sell it quicker...then drop the price and open up to more markets...

    Post it on the Gibson guitar web site or the Acoustic guitar forum.
     
  12. Ogre

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    Your unwillingness to ship is limiting your buyer pool. In checking out the specs, I see no difference from a regular J45.
     
  13. enroper

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    Not the case. It's got upgraded wood in the backs and sides ( mahogany vs. rosewood ), period correct logo, pickguard, bracing, etc.
     
  14. JefeMaximo

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    Yep, if you really want to sell, and it hasn't moved yet locally, you will need to drop one of your conditions - either take a financial hit, or be willing to ship. If neither of those sounds appealing, then hang on to the guitar and enjoy it.

    The market stinks, and although a J45 can be a great guitar, there are enough of them that potential buyers have plenty of choices.
     
  15. frquent flyer

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    I had a tough time selling a mint S anta C ruz D 12. I tried tgp and Craigs with no success. Finally a friend bought it and loves it.C raigs may be good for some folks but have better luck selling a GOOD piece of equipment thru social network or circle of friends.
     
  16. Dotneck

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    One of the Gibson Acoustic product reps told me this run was ordered by a Japanese distributor and they had a particular set of specs that they wanted that conformed to a J-45 released in the 50s. Certain kinds of braces...certain dots on the fretboard, etc. Some little detail was ot quite what they wanted to s they refused the shipment and Gibson decided to try to sell them here instead.

    So yes, they are like regular J-45s with some little cosmetic difference. Any special order they varies from the standard models currently offered becomes a Custom Shop guitar.

    I'd be interested to know if the guitar conformed to an early 50's or later 50's J-45. They changed pretty significantly around 1954.



    J-45's are normally mahogany. Your also looked like mahogany from the photos...I know there are some rosewood j-45s being made these days but the standard spec has been mahogany for decades...
     
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    Jon C Silver Supporting Member

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    it appears your assessment of the value of these features is not aligning with the buyers' pool at this time ... it's tough out there, I assume that I may have to go 20% below my most hard-eyed look at what I think something is "worth" ... and at that price it may or may not be worth it to me to let it go. :YinYang:YinYang
     
  19. Papajuice

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    Absolutely correct the only one one built with rosewood is the J-45 Custom
     
  20. jayn

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    I haven't sold an acoustic for a long time, but I bought a Huss & Dalton slope shoulder/sunburst DS that was listed on UGMF and the Collings Forum. It was a really good deal and turned out to be a great guitar that's been gigged a lot since it arrived. I think the price was indicative of the market, but also a few dings which seem to bother the high-end acoustic folks. Worked to my favor since it was going to get beat up more playing out anyway...
     

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