Which 6L6 Clones sound better than the Fender Originals?

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  1. 55custom

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    And I mean tweed, blonde, BF, or whatever. A clone that to you sounds better and/or is better (perhaps because of tweaks or options) than its vintage Fender counterpart?
     
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    Louis Electric tweed twins sound really good, and the Blues Pearl "blackfaces" also.
     
  3. Tag

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    Im a Fender maniac. Out of all the Fender clones and types I have found and played, the only thing that has surpassed the Fenders in direct A/B testing are the Bruno Cowtippers and tweedy pies. While many have sounded great on their own, when put next to a great sounding original, I have always preferred the Fenders.

    Go get em Leo!
     
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    David Allen's amps are like that, at least the one I've got. In this case the original is a 6V6 amp, but his clone is more versatile.

    Hot Fudge w/Nuts, a 6G3 brown Deluxe clone:
    -bigger trannies
    -can use 6V6, 6L6 or EL34 power tubes
    -bigger cabinet
    -6G11 (brown Vibrolux) trem
    -bias jacks for easy biasing with a multimeter
    -soul control (dials out negative feedback to taste)
    -deep switch (activates or defeats a cap; on=Fender type, off=Marshall type)
    -top shelf components

    I don't know if it sounds better than an original brown Deluxe, having never heard one in person. I know that if an original sounds better than this I need to get one.
    I've read similar reactions to his BF 6L6 clones.
     
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    clark and
    + 1 on allen
     
  6. jzucker

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    If you want a fender, get a fender.

    That being said, the Allen amps sound great and believe it or not the Pritchard solid state amps sound remarkably like a BF Fender amp.
     
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  8. Valvetrain

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    i'm biased, but i've got 2 you should check....
    Look at Classic 535 (5F4 Super) and the Classic 338 (5E3, with 6L6's and heavy iron)

    if you like tweeds with a little added kick...

    :BluesBros
     
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    to me , nothing sounds like a old Blackface, Brown or Tweed.
    There are manny good amps mentioned, ( Clark, Allen, Bruno ),
    but only a Fender sounds like a Fender, the others come only close.
     
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    Bruno Cowtippers and Tweedy Pies are great. I think the 6L6 Top Hat Ambassadors sound just as good as Fenders. I have a mint 1965 Fender Pro Reverb and just sold the same year/condition Deluxe Reverb and Twin but I prefer the Top Hat and Brunos.
     
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    Another thumbs up on Allen. My Old Flame just keeps surprising me. Maybe it's not Fendery after all? It sure sounds better than any (8 in all) BF & SF amps I've owned so maybe that means it's not authentic? :rolleyes:
     
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    The virtually now-unobtainable Uncle Spot Custom Super Reverb. Yes, some amps can actually out-Fender a Fender. This is one of them.
     
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    Check out the Gries Amp. Blackface clone, great amp 6l6 or 6v6. You can see them at Juinior's Music in CT. Or go the Gries Amp website.

    gep
     
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    gep---i've been a bit curious about those Gries amps---like to hear some soundclips---heck, I've never heard any ALLEN soundclips either!---sure would like to...

    I LOVE my Clark amp (It's a Beaufort, but I had Mr. Clark build it w/ a 15" in a Tweed Pro style cabinet, and set up to take either 6L6's w/ a 5U4 rectifier, or 6V6's w/ a 5Y3)---it sounds fantastic either way for smallish clubs---the 6V6's tear up quicker, but have less bottom than the other set-up---both are great!---my local tech put in an old p15n, and said he could'nt build an amp that nice and clean---Mike does excellent work. Nothing wrong with my Victorias, either, BTW---:)

    ac
     
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    Just to be devil's advocate? Where can you get an old fender that sounds like an old fender? And which old fender does it sound like? The old one when it was new in the showroom or the old one that needs a cap job, new tube sockets and a replacement for that rusty transformer, or the old one that's been blueprinted? :YinYang

    However, I do agree with your statement. If you want a fender, get a fender. :p
     
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    The only amps I've heard that out-fender a fender are the old ampeg V series amps. They are breathtaking in their HUGENESS. Unfortunately, they are heavy as hell and a bit difficult to service.

    Too bad none of the clone makers is making a hand-wired version.
     
  17. mkg

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    Soundclips of the Allen Hot Fudge w/Nuts are here: http://www.nowhereradio.com/mkg/singles
    You can stream and/or download them.
    I haven't heard clips of any of the other Allens, but sure would like to.

    Mark G.
     
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    I haven't found one yet, but I've read that Carr amps are pretty good and had the late Cesar Diaz's seal of approval...
     
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    I guess it depends on what "fender" you're talking about. My Carr Rambler was nice but it had a class A power section and a weird tremelo circuit.

    It certainly didn't sound like a BF era Fender amp. I prefer the BF Fender's tone, reverb and trem.

    The Carr seems to combine elements of late '50s / early '60s amps.

    So, perhaps the original poster could be more specific. We talking tweed bassman, '64 Super Reverb, '65 Twin or what? :)
     
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