Which A/B/Y?

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  1. anti-flag193

    anti-flag193 Member

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    I have a 2203 halfstack and a Laney GH100L halfstack coming in next week. At gigs I wanna run them on either side of the stage and was planning on buying a loop-master ABY but I really don't want to have to deal with group loop hum and noise because supposedly the outputs aren't grounded. What do you guys use? I know the Radial Tonebone is supposedly awesome, but I don't wanna spend that much unless there is no other choice. Has anyone tried this?
    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/prod...cher?sku=153931
    It says it eliminates group loops and is well within my budget.


    Also, startouch pedals looks nice, but I'm not sure if they eliminate ground loops either. Any help would be appreciated.
     
  2. jowille

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    I use a Morely a/b/y, I picked it up from GC a few years ago. Can't remember the cost but it wasn't expensive and I get no hum with it.
     
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    Lehle is a good A/B/Y Pedal
     
  4. cheesey

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    thumbs up on the morley , a/b or both , was gonna get a switchbone but over $200 my friend loaned me his morely and he'd have to kill me to get it back.:eek:
     
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    Yeah, very expensive too though. I wanna go with the cheapest ABY I can with isolated outputs so I get no ground loop hum.
     
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    Most of the cheaper one (im trying to be polite here) like loop-master, Looopers, (and mine) etc. Are grounded but are not with isolated outputs. ABY with iIsolated outputs will be expensive.

    Aj
     
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    That's what I'm saying. But then I saw the link for the Radial Tonebone Bigshot that I linked in my first post. It says it eliminated groud loops because "B" is isolated. This is the description...

    Allows you to toggle between 2 guitar amps or play them both at the same time. Features a guitar input, a thru-put, and 2 outputs. Output B is equipped with a ground-lift and 180° polarity reverse. For active buffered circuits, an isolation transformer on output-B eliminates ground loops. 14-gauge steel construction.
     
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    Startouch makes a good one too.
     
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    Tonebone JX2 Switchbone

    transparent, with a boost button
     
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    Yeah, I saw the startouch...I don't think the outputs are isolated though.
     
  11. Dr.Tom

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    I have a whirlwind ABY that works fine. My next one is going to be a WOBO;
    http://www.woboge.com/

    Check them out. I haven't used them but they get great reviews and the electronics are sound and the price is very reasonable.

    Regards,

    Tom

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    yeah, the wobo looks good as it has a switch that lifts the ground on one of the amps. No idea on the price though.
     
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    Framptone 3-banger - very easy to eliminate the ground-loop hum; virtually "noiseless";)
     
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    I'm tying to get the low down on the cheaper ones, if there are any that have isolated inputs. I'd love to get a Lehle, but it's waaay to much money.
     
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    Yes, they are expensive. But soooo quiet, and no "pop." Good luck in your search!!!

    Doc :BEER
     
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    I think I'm just gunna order the Radial Tonebone Bigshot for $69 at musicians friend and give it a go.
     
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    I use a Loooper ABY to connect a TopHat CR and a Fargen Blackbird....In the paperwork from Loooper Dave, he says that when you use the "both" option, you'll experience some hum caused by a ground loop but he adds you can remedy the situation by using a 3 to 2 prong adapter on one of the amps.......plug the cord from the amp into adapter, then into your power source......and it works.....it eliminates, Id say, 75 to 90% of the noise.
     
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    Does anyone have any input regarding whether the more expensive AB-Ys' features (e.g. ground/phase/isolated inputs) are necessary when switching between 2 channels on one amp (a new Kingsley - I understand that a lot of older amps would have channels out of phase) versus between two amps? Should I be fine with a cheaper alternative?
     

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