Which Cab/Spkrs for a 1987x Plexi Clone?

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  1. ala02c

    ala02c Member

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    Currently running above stated head w/ 2x12 celestion golds. Sounds good but doesn't take OD's well. Thinking about getting 412 w/ G12H30's and switching out 2 for the golds. Not much exper. with diff speakers in general so if anyone has played GB's or V30's as well feel free to chime in.
    Thanks!
     
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    V30s are what I have in my 1960 cabinet, really love those speakers, they are 60 watt speakers, Mesa uses them in their rectifier cabinets, the V30s are very efficeint and pretty much a metal standard, nothing 'vintage' about them.
     
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    Vintage Modern! The heads blow, but the cabinets are supreme, and they're like 1 of 2 cabinets that you can get loaded with G12C-25 Celestions. I run both the A and B cabs with my JCM 800 and they sound killer.
     
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    Hmmmm. never tried V30's...what are G12C-25?
     
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    25 watt, small magnet Greenbacks. Same ones that you get in the Jimi Hendrix cabinet I believe, but the Vintage Moderns look like a normal 1960 cab save for the dark purple tolex and silver piping vs. black tolex and white piping.
     
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    have you ever used G12h w/ any marshall head?
     
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    Pretty sure the Heritage G12H-30, not the regular one, is just the 30 watt version of the G12C-25. Avatar Speakers lives by adding one G12H-30 and a V30 into a 2x12 cabinet. I've heard a lot of people do it and the resulting tone is quite nice.
     
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    Greenbacks probably not what your looking for, they are low power and very inefficient, 100 watt amps sound like 50 watt running V30, they break up, and 25 watts is 25 watts, greenbacks were the standard speaker back in the 70s, had to run a full stack of greenback with a 100 watt head, tube amps have a peak power twice the rms power, so a single cabient could only run a 50 watt head, blew those bastards, and when one went the rest usually went along with it.

    You said you were looking for OD speaker, the V30s are the most common OD speakers, they are standard in most cabinets, Bogner, Mesa, Marshall 1960xt or what ever they call their cabient with V30s instead of the G12T-75s
     
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    V30-G12H combo sounds quite good with a Marshall or Marshall Flavored amp. I have a Plexi style amp running through one of the aforementioned Avatars with this combo and it sounds quite good...as does a hot-rodded Brown Deluxe.

    I will tell you what else sounds really good with a Marshall that most would not think of trying, the Cannabis Rex. Smoooottttthhh and crunchy. Sounds great.

    Mike
     
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    SCUMBACKs. M75 for leads with lots of breakup. H75s for tight riffs
     
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    Will the 1987 blow two 30W Greenbacks in a 2x12 cab? I'm waiting for my Soultone 1987ps but have no cab for it. Mickey recommends G12-65 in a 2x12 and says the GBs will not make it. So I guess 65s in a 212 or Greenbacks in a 412?

    G12-65's - maybe something for "ala02c" to consider?
     
  13. Glowing Tubes

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    Hey, me too :dude
    Fortunately I have an older 4x12 Marshall cab "lying" around.
    G12H speakers sound great with marshally type heads as do V30's.
    Shouldnt two 30W speakers wired (I forget if its series or parallel) handle 60 watts?

    Cant wait for that Soultone head. :munch
     
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    i wish i could get the scumbacks but i would pay more for the shipping than for the speakers... :|
     
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    Cool! Talk to you later then ;)
    30+30 in series - Yeah, that's what I thought too but maybe they peak over 60 watts, I don't know.
     
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    There's really no way for me to try these speakers around here... I'm thinking about ordering a 412 from Avatar w/ V30s and G12h's. I guess then I could try switching between the three types I'll have (V30, G12, Golds) to see what the best combo is for this application. Tight, smooth, OD sound is what I'm looking for (aren't we all!)

    Anyone ever tried the G12h30-Gold combo?

    I hear a lot of hype but never hear of anyone who runs that setup...
     
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    1987 plexi 50 watt (superlead I think) It's a metroamps board anyway...
     
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    That amp might actually be underrated. It could very well put out closer to 60W RMS instead of 50, depending on the tubes you have. I'd be hesitant to crank it into a 2x12 cab with a pair of $200 Heritage 30W greenbacks. I'd feel much more comfortable using the Vintage 30's (60W each), or just using a 4x12 cab with the greenbacks. But, if you're looking for that speaker break-up go for the greeenbacks. Sounds like you want a tighter sound, so why not just use the vintage 30's or something else like the Celestion Blue
     
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    I run a V30 and G12H30 (cheaper version of the G12H Heritage, but I like the way they sing better) with a 40 watt tube amp and it is a very cool combination.

    Back to the OP, the 50 watt 1987 really likes to see 4x12's. I had one for a while with a 1960 slant cab full of greenbacks and it sounded incredible.

    'Course nowadays, the restaurants and clubs I play are strictly 1x12 affairs. But I'm old. <g>
     

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