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which ej in a box pedal

guitargod2u

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well tax time is here and the wife is allowing me to spend couple hundred on effects. I'm looking for a eric johnson fuzz sound. I've already owned the 200lbs of tone and didn't get along with it to much. It was a great fuzz but think it was actually a little to tame for me. Props though for being the quietest fuzz i've ever played though.

I'm thinking of going with fulltone 70 mkII pedal. I'm not sure if i should just wait for eric johnson sig or not because mike said he got his hands on a old eric johnson fuzz face but the 70 has the added addition of a mids knob. i also enjoy david gilmour and hendrix so thinking the bc108's would be a better match over the bc183 that will be in the sig fuzz face.

So chime in. Should i go with the fulltone 70 mkII,eric johnson fuzz face, or neither and suggest away. Like i said i want a eric johnson,david gilmour,hendrix fuzz face basically. Currently i play a les paul copy by a company called agile but i have access to strats like kenny wayne shepard sig and a pawn shop beater strat that i sometimes play through. My amp is nothing important but where i live i can't play loud so i only use epiphone valve jr. stack which is el84 based for those that don't know/remember. My other effects include danelectro chicken salad vibrato that i personally modded for more univibe type sound,ibanez wh-10 wah,china made rat 2,and boss blues driver.

I plan for second pedal to purchase a tc electronic flashback delay since my rig doesn't have one. i figure with a fuzz face and delay along with my other pedals i'll be on the right track.
 

Kev O)))

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If you want BC108 --> Hendrix Fuzz Face / MXR 108 Fuzz

BC183 --> Analogman Sunface -and/or- EJ Fuzz Face
 
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guitargod2u

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so whats the difference between the hendrix fuzz face with bc108's and fulltone 70 with bc108's 70 looks like plus with mids knob and other tweaks?
 

CE-2 Man

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I'd be suprised if you could hear a real difference in the transistors to be honest. If you can pull off a passable Eric impression then you'll get his sound out of either Fuzz Face mentioned here. I hope that makes sense, and doesn't come across as a snidey brush off remark, I mean it to be honest and not the start of an argument! I'm a huge EJ fan, don't worry, I'm here to indulge you and not to start arguments about batteries and elastic bands and the amount of cable on his pedal board :)

I have the JimiFace and I love it but if I was you I'd wait on for the EJFace so I could show it off here and be smug about being in the first group to own one! From what I've heard on Yootoob it sounds WOWZA!
 

62Tele

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Actually the Jetter Gold Standard gets you right there. I A/B't the GS against my Trombetta Mini Bone/Jetdrive combo and it gets very much in the same ballpark. The Trombetta is stellar as well, my favorite fuzz to date. Both the Mini Bone and the Gold Standard have a huge range of tones, so you're not stuck with a one trick pony.

There was a good video from the guys at VooDoo about getting EJ tone - seems to be pretty much running a fuzz into a good transparent OD.
 

guitargod2u

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I'd be suprised if you could hear a real difference in the transistors to be honest. If you can pull off a passable Eric impression then you'll get his sound out of either Fuzz Face mentioned here. I hope that makes sense, and doesn't come across as a snidey brush off remark, I mean it to be honest and not the start of an argument! I'm a huge EJ fan, don't worry, I'm here to indulge you and not to start arguments about batteries and elastic bands and the amount of cable on his pedal board :)

I have the JimiFace and I love it but if I was you I'd wait on for the EJFace so I could show it off here and be smug about being in the first group to own one! From what I've heard on Yootoob it sounds WOWZA!
yes very true i guess its not like silicon vs germanium argument. its just wife rarely lets me go spend some money on gear let alone about $300 or so...
 

CE-2 Man

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In that case, definitely savour this purchase, take as long as you need just basking in it, ironing out every last detail before you lay that money down!
 

voorhiessa

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I chose the 70 over the Jimi b/c of the mids and internal trimmer, which shapes the fuzz. Check out the owners manual. Almost went with the Mxr fuzz due to buffer/bright switch.
 

Rod

Tone is Paramount
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yes very true i guess its not like silicon vs germanium argument. its just wife rarely lets me go spend some money on gear let alone about $300 or so...
Well, you know what you can do about that!!:p:huh:omg
 

tjauernig

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hardest dirt pedal to make. No two EVER sound the same. Just keep trying them until one trips your trigger. And yes tyhe transistors make a huge difference.
 

ToneRanger72

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I'm saving up for an EJ fuzz, but also have the '70 - what's nice about the '70 is the mid control. Alot of times fuzz sounds great by itself but once the full band kicks (anything bigger than a power trio) and it can get lost in the mix. The mid knob allows you to dial things so that you hear yourself again.

Also - there are two basic EJ fuzz sounds: The late 80's/early 90's sound when he used a Dumble Steel String Singer, and the more current sound which is into a Marshall set for a very clear rhythm crunch. The Dumble/Fuzz combo was what I refer to as the "Beautiful Buzzsaw" tone, and it's what you hear on Ah Via Musicom in songs like "Desert Rose" and "Nothing Can Keep Me From You" - it's brighter and cutting but still very fat and thick. The Marshall/Fuzz combo is warmer and rounder and more horn-like.
Bottom line is how you set up the dirt after the fuzz will have a big impact on how it sounds - James Santiago of Voodoo Lab proved this with his demos of the EJ Sig Fuzz into a VL Giggity - he nailed both sounds with the same fuzz by adjusting the EQ arc and gain structure via the Giggity...
 

SouthernShred

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Actually the Jetter Gold Standard gets you right there. I A/B't the GS against my Trombetta Mini Bone/Jetdrive combo and it gets very much in the same ballpark. The Trombetta is stellar as well, my favorite fuzz to date. Both the Mini Bone and the Gold Standard have a huge range of tones, so you're not stuck with a one trick pony.

There was a good video from the guys at VooDoo about getting EJ tone - seems to be pretty much running a fuzz into a good transparent OD.
I love the Gold Standard for EJ in a box...Brad is a huge EJ nut like me and seems to always be chasing that tone with some of his pedals...this one nails it, even through a nice BF Fender
 

guitargod2u

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well friday a little late i know finally bought eric johnson fuzz face with this years tax money. i believe last year i spent money on musket v2 to replace the early v1 that i use to have. I have about another $320 or so to work with logical choice for me seems to be giggity and sparkle drive mod to complaiment the ej fuzz face.

Also is it normal for there to be a clicking sound with the fuzz on? i just picked up some sunbeam dollar tree carbon/zinc whatever 9volt for it and its nice and sputtery. I read its biased pretty low.

So far i don't really like to stack it with other pedals. I tried it with my blues driver = to bassy,green rhino = kinda to smooth i think i just prefer that buzzsaw quality, and actually tried it with made in china rat2 with gain below 9 o clock and filter pretty low like below 11 o clock sounds like fuzz face still shines through. Tests so far have only been with my agile 3100.

My pedal board will be pretty drive heavy but thats really my only addiction now a days. New setup within the week should look something like this guitar-ej fuzz face-danelectro chicken salad modded for more univibe sound-rat2-green rhino-sparkle drive mod-musket v2-blues driver-giggity-amp. Recently my wah broke thought about buying a nice wilson wah but think giggity/sparkle drive combo will sound nicer.
 

SkateDawg

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Take an OD (your favorite here - I use a Jetter Helium or Red) and combine it with a Jetter Blue.
Viola!
 

jcs

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How many of you folks have seen EJ in person?

I've seen him 3 times in the last 10 years and each time i go away thinking his FF driven into a Marshall for his dirty rhythm tone is good but not necessarily as great as on the records, including Alien Love Child.

I have used various FF with my 71 Marshall Smallbox 50 and its close but how each individual FF interacts with his main plexi 50 Marshall or his 100 Marshall is key here.

My 71 Marshall 50 'by itself' sounds fairly close to EJ rhythm tone.

Keep in mind EJ is using one amp optimated for that one FF into Marshall tone for his rhythm tone ONLY.

His lead tone is completely different, darker, some say muddy (but again mainly Marshally sounding) which i can get with my Turborat set fairly dark into my 71 Marshall 50.

Obviously the clean Fender with chorus tone is nothing like his rhythm and lead tone at all.
 




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