Which hollow bodies are good for rock?

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  1. Super Reverb Swell

    Super Reverb Swell Supporting Member

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    I've been really tempted lately to break into the hollow body world, but I don't know where to start. F-holes, no f-holes, chambered, etc?

    I'm a rock player, so I understand a center block is preferred, but any info or any specific brands/models to look at would really help. Not that into the jazz scene.
     
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    Ted Nugent made his career playing the Gibson Byrdland, a short scale, hollowbody jazz box.

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    Even with the Peavey 5150 (his amp of choice) on 3, he still has to deal with a ton of feedback.

    The term "rock" covers a multitude of sins, so I'd suggest some kind of semi-hollowbody guitar if you want the hollowbody sound with some feedback protection. Some high volume players who use Gretsch hollowbodies (The Cult's Billy Duffy or The Living End's Chris Cheney) stuff towels and old t-shirts in their guitars to cut down the howl.

    I'd look at something like the Epiphone Lucille (or the Gibson model, if you have the $$$). The lack of F-holes is supposed to help cut down any feedback issues once the distortion kicks in.
     
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    Well, if it's a hollow body, it's most likely going to have 'holes'. Whether they're in the shape of an f or not is inconsequential. Chambered refers to a solid body with weight relief. Typically that means circular cut outs under a maple top. Gives a different sound and of course less weight, but nothing like a true hollow body.

    A center block is a feature of a semi-hollow body, like a Gibson ES335. If you want a true hollow, look at the ES175 or Birdland from Gibson or several offerings from Gretch. The BIG hollow bodies are super sensitive to feedback, like the Gibson Super 400. If you crank it up, you're going to have enough feedback to deal with.
     
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    Nugents idol Jim Mccarty played a Byrdland i believe when he was with Mitch Ryder
     
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    If you're going hollow, go all the way: Gretsch, or maybe a Casino/330. Semi-hollows sound just like chambered solidbodies to me.
     
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    Keith Richards used a Mono ES-345. It had f-holes.

    I have a defunct Gibson ES-347. It mangles any rock style. Both are similar to the ES-335 body. Didn't Clapton use a ES-335 in Cream?

    Both are semi-hollows with a center block. A true hollow body may feedback and howl depending on where you are standing in relation to your amp.

    Good ones are Ibanez AS or AM series without the $$ a Gibson requires. Yamahas are good too, but tough to find. Duesenbergs, Gretsches are $$. An Eastman is good and not too expensive. I know I'm forgetting some brands, but they now have ES-335 Studio models that can keep the price down.

    Gibson makes an ES-339 semihollow that has a smaller body similar to a LP. But it doesn't have the resonance of the bigger ES-335, but more than an LP, which for rock isn't a bad thing.
     
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    A hollowbody will likely be unsuitable for Rock unless you like uncontrolled howling feedback. That is why the came up with the solid body guitar.
     
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    Lots of choices available. I've had an ES335 or copy since I started shaving (that's been awhile). I suggest for rock that you skip the fully-hollow and get a semihollow, to avoid the feedback issues
    Depending on your budget, look at:
    Gibson ES-335 family, or their smaller siblings, mid $$$$ (means 4 figures of dollars)
    Heritage H535 family, low to mid $$$$
    Ibanez semis, $$$ to $$$$
    Godin Montreal Premiere, low $$$$
    Hagstrom semis $$$
    Carvin semihollows, $$$$
    Epiphone semis, $$$
    Eastman semis, low $$$$
    Some Gretsches, high $$$ to mid $$$$
    Collings, mid $$$$
    Comins, low $$$$

    Your best bet is to find a dealer that stocks some, then try what they have.
     
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    Take a look at a Reverend Manta Ray. Really versatile. I love mine.

    However, it's a flattop, rather than an archtop like a 335. I have not found feedback to be an issue at all.
     
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    Here are mine - first, the Gretsch Billy Duffy White Falcon.

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    If you click on the link in my sig, you'll go to our web site. I play the Falcon on the two live cuts. On For Sweet Irene I'm in the left channel. On Devil Tree I'm the only guitar.

    No clips of the PRS McCarty Hollowbody, but I've definitely used it in the same situation. I put DGT pickups in this one and it's killer.

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    Both are fully hollow and are more prone to feedback than a solid body, especially the Falcon, but it can be controlled. Those two live cuts were played pretty dang loud and I was bout 3 ft. in front of my amp.
     
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    Agree, both the HB and P90 versions are great live guitars and I've not had any issues with feedback.

    Also have a PRS S2 Custom 22 semi hollow. Not played that live, but it has a similar vibe.
     
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    This old Matsumoku built Epiphone can handle a lot of volume and distortion for a guitar with a fully hollow body and floating bridge.
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    The same model was also sold as Aria, Electra, Univox, and who knows how many other names.
     
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    This one sounds awesome live and in the studio.

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    I had a PRS Hollowbody II with 57/08s that was awesome with even high gain.
     
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    Friend of mine uses a Guild Starfire live. I think it sounds incredible.
     
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    Can't go wrong with a Casino. I'm looking forward to trying out the upcoming Gary Clark Jr. version myself...
     

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