Which MOD 50 modules for me? plus other questions

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  1. rich2k4

    rich2k4 Supporting Member

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    the MOD 50 has really caught my interest in terms of versatility.

    however i'm having trouble deciding which modules would be right for me.

    i'm looking for a nice fat clean tone, fender cleans.

    classic rock rhythm tone that can cover cream,led zeppelin, ac/dc, etc

    higher gain rhythm tone for the 80's hard rock stuff. steve vai, paul gilbert etc

    i also want a lead tone that is sort of like joe bonamassa's and Gary Moore's


    so that would be like a 4 channel amp.

    channel 1, fender clean

    channel 2, classic rock rhythm

    channel 3, higher gain rhythm

    channel 4, smooth lead tone like joe bonamassa and gary moore.


    also some questions for people who have the amp, can you set each channel at separate volumes?

    for example lets say they are called Channel 1A and 1B and Channel 2A and 2B

    can i make 1B louder then 1A?

    how about 2B louder then 2A?

    how about 2A louder then 1A?

    etc....

    is this possible? i need to know because there are many rhythm/lead situations that may pop up where i will need different types of lead sounds, or rhythm sounds.

    also about the Randall module amps

    what's the difference between the lower priced Randall module amps, and the higher priced Egnater ones? Aren't they similar? is it just a matter of the Egnater being built with better quality parts?
     
  2. rich2k4

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    Yes, you can set channels and modules at different volume levels......really cool. You won't be sorry if you go Mod 50. Can't comment on the Randall stuff, but it seems to get good reviews.

    If you want a "fatter" clean, I'd go with a Bassman. Warm and crunchy.
    The T/D is more sparkly twin and deluxe with some grit.
    If you play "almost clean" or with low output pickups, the SL is fantastic.
    For your hard rock styles, I'd suggest the SL2. It's an amazing module.
    The EG5 is also great, but probably more SLO oriented.

    So I'd say Bassman or SL for your clean/crunch and SL2 for hard rock crunch and leads. You can always add a pedal for almost limitless tones/gain.
    Egnater is also releasing an E2 later this year where you can add 2 additional modules to the Mod 50 with the midi in/out I believe.
     
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    I have the VX, EG5, SL2 and T/D modules and I seem to favor the VX for my clean and low gain crunch and the EG5 for all the rest--very versatile module.
    The T/D is good too if you want really Fender clean with no breakup on the A channel and spanky Deluxe on the B side.

    All in all, you can't go wrong with the Mod50--and its easy to buy/sell modules until you find what you like.
     
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    thank you guys, i'll check that site out.

    if anyone can still comment on the difference between the randall module amps and the mod 50, i'd appreciate it.
     
  7. JKD

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    Well I've owned, and still own, both..the Randall for quite some time but I always had that bug in my backside about Egnater.

    I'm going to qualify all my statements with the note that a) I'm not a very good player...I lack the discipline and focus or something and b) I play solely for my own listening pleasure at home.

    I think it's fair to sum up the differences as follows.

    1. The build quality isn't really too much different IMO. I think Egnater has slightly higher component cost, possibly a better transformer and almost assuredly a higher labor cost...lower volume, US based production (AFAIK)...although Randall did have a US module assembler (EDEN Electronics?) at one point and may well still have.

    If you look at the modules you can see Bruce prefers different resistor and capacitor types for certain things.

    The switching is also different....but there are two channels on a Dual module so that's not really surprising.

    2. The Randall equivalent modules sound more aggressive than their Egnater equivalents. Randall have said this is down to what their clientele ask for.


    Comparing a MOD50 with an RM50HB (I have both at home):

    1. MOD50 is Dual Channel capable.....this is a *killer* feature. Low and High gain voicings per module is the #1 reason to go Egnater over Randall

    2. MOD50 has the Class A low power feature, this alone is a great option

    3. RM50HB comes with a reverb tank and driver circuit....although I don't use Reverb much and it takes over the Parallel FX loop..I'm surprised Egnater didn't match this

    4. Sound wise, the MOD50 beats out the RM50HB...not by a lot but it has something that's hard to describe. I've played Randall modules in Egnater. I've run my M4 through the loops of both MOD50 and RM50HB and the MOD50 is the best sounding..if only it had 4 slots. :D The M4 into the MOD50 loop I haven't spent enough time on yet...but it's real close to the MOD50.

    5. Again, the Randall has a more aggressive edge to the tone, even with the same (5881WXT) power tubes and modules.


    I totally convinced myself that I needed no other amp than my Randall set-up, I sold off my ENGL and my Mesa Dual Rectifiers in that process..... but that Egnater bug wouldn't let up and now I have to say that I'm going to do my darned best to keep both around :D
     
  8. shoe

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    Based on your descriptions, I'd definitely suggest the Bassman for your clean to classic rock crunch sounds.

    On the dirty side you might want the SL2....though the EG5 is just amazing....notes just ooze out of your playing.

    They have a few MOD100's left over so why not get all three!
     

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