Which OD/Dist pedal for tight, focused, piano-like lows?

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  1. JimEff

    JimEff Member

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    I've been through quite a few OD/Dist pedals but I'm no pedal expert. A lot of pedals give me woofy fuzzy unfocused bass notes which I hate. What pedal would give me tight, focused, piano-like low notes? The big box Plexitone gets me there, sort of, but it's real finicky about which amp I use because it's so scooped. I tried putting a TS in-line with it but didn't like the results. I'm not necessarily trying to emulate a Marshall. Thanks.
     
  2. dysorexia

    dysorexia Senior Member

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    What amp are you using? The problem might be your amp or speakers and no pedal will help that.
     
  3. JimEff

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    I rotate between a few, usually a Tone King Imperial or a Quilter Aviator, both 1x12 combos. I don't think it's the amp. The TK can get what I'm after but you have to crank it to volumes that don't work for my situation. Pretty much the same with the Aviator. It gets fat but not until a certain volume. Maybe my goal is not attainable for volumes less than really-loud?
     
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    Try an older Barber Direct Drive.. Not a huge mid hump.. Easy to dial in & a great low gain pedal too. Not just medium/high gain.
    You can find one for about $70.
     
  5. JimEff

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    Is that the same as the Barber Compact Direct Drive or different?
     
  6. mkr1

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    Or the Gain Changer. It seems to be the response offered to a lot of "which OD for..." threads. I have a few pedals with a pre-drive bass control and some with post-drive. The GC is tighter than them all, in terms of providing a thumpy but focused attack on low strings. Any of his pedals with the bass trim pot will give you good tight attack with ability to crank up the fullness without flub.
     
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    One of the Amptweaker pedals that come with the tight control.
    That's what it does.
     
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    Thnx. As I understand it, the GC is the "American" version of the DD. Is the GC better for tight lows than the DD?
     
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    I think they're in the same ballpark. I've had the compact DD and the bigbox with all the trim pots. I had more fun doing low string palm mute 5ths with the GC because it can get a bit more low end and then top end sizzle, where the DD pedals have more mids generally speaking.
     
  10. JimEff

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    Thnx. Looks interesting. I didn't know about these.
     
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    Trying to get my head around "piano-like low notes" in real world terms, ie: in relation to guitar tone - how do you mean? The closest I've heard a guitar sound to a piano is something like a semi-hollow baritone on the neck position with Filtertrons.

    What is a "piano-like low"? Pianos are not exactly "tight" sounding instruments - they carry a tonne of low frequency resonance in the lower octave.
     
  12. JimEff

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    Tight. Focused. Maybe my description was off. Tough to describe sound with words, sometimes.
     
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    You can make an Okko Diablo do that, no problem.
     
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    I'm an OD freak (probably spent $5,000 in ODs since I joined TGP to get that sound). It's only ever happened for me if the amp/guitar could already do that.

    For me, it'd be a Honey Bee (BJF) but again, the amp/guitar would already want to make that tone.
     
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    Tone Tubby 40/40 speaker, you would be surprised how much of this is in the speaker cone. Most celestion need not apply except for Gold 12", CRex will work. EV12L or clone.

    You never did answer as to what speakers your running? Those tones are fine in most amps/pedals, it's the speaker that makes or breaks it. If your ignoring speaker/cab your ignoring 70% of the equation for good tone.
     
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    Lead 80, I believe, in the Quilter Aviator. Tone King uses their own speaker, not sure what it's equivalent to.
     
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    Not the Compact. The older ones have the larger enclosure.
    There's one on Ebay right now for $74 free shipping.
     
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    The only pedal I've found that has the same type of ballsy amplike tone the Plexitone has, which I used for a long time and LOVED but eventually moved on from because I wanted more EQ control to match certain amps, is the Bogner Red. It's plenty tight and might work great for you as it does for me. Give it a test drive if you can.
     
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    I'll play. Ethos can sound like almost anything you want and that clean channel is focused, clear and articulate.
     
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    As a rockabilly player I really need a tight, clear low end. I have tried many, many overdrives! This is the best I have found so far - tight, clear bass strings but fat squawky trebles. Incredibly touch responsive. I usually play a Gretsch and it loves Filter'trons. But I also use a Strat from time to time and a P90 335 (Luther Dickinson) and yes, I can indeed get the "piano-like" low E string. Lovely. :) Not cheap but absolutely brilliant.

    http://www.klangfarg.com/products.html
     

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