Which of these amps for my funk/r&b band?

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  1. squeally dan

    squeally dan Member

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    I'm currently using a 71 deluxe reverb and want something that sounds simmilar but with just a bit more headroom.

    silverface Vibrolux
    blackface or silver face bassman head
    blackface or silverface bandmaster head

    What would you do? I think I would like the vibrolux but they seem to be a bit more expensive.
     
  2. stratzrus

    stratzrus Philadelphia Jazz, Funk, and R&B Supporting Member

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    Of the three I'd want the Vibrolux, but if weight isn't an issue I'd get a silverface Super Reverb. I've played one off and on in funk bands for over 15 years and with a pedal or two it's perfect.
     
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    FlyingVBlues Gold Supporting Member

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    I would want the Vibrolux Reverb. If you're going to get a Silverface amp try to get one made in 1968 or 1969. After that Fender started making some "improvements" to the amp. I don't think they sound as good as the Blackface or early Silverface versions. However, if cost is a factor take a look at the Allen Encore, which is based on a Blackface Vibrolux Reverb but without the normal channel. Dave Allen has added a few nice enhancements such as a 2-knob reverb, rear-panel bias measurment jacks, and front-panel power switches.

    FVB
     
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    If you want/need reverb the answer is obvious. If not, whichever one is clean enough for you at the volumes you play at.

    ALL are possible contenders.
     
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    Of the 3, I'd go +1 on the Vibrolux.

    Though, I recommend a SF Super Reverb, which is what I use. I have a 72' SF Super, which has been placed in a headshell. I have several speaker cabinets, depending on the gig.

    The Super is big, clean, and can be as loud as you need. It also takes pedals well. I use a G-System with mine, and keep my pedals in the rack.
     
  7. squeally dan

    squeally dan Member

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    I just didn't know if a bassman or bandmaster would be simmilar in tone to the deluxe? I don't have to have reverb. Can always get a pedal for that if need be.
     
  8. kekaiakea

    kekaiakea Rob Yamanoha

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    my band does the funk/r&b thing, and my 68 bassman is perfect.
     
  9. Blue Strat

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    None of these will be identical to a DR, none use 6V6s. The issue in figuring this out is knowing how similar to us would be similar enough to you which no one can possibly know. All of these amps are in the same relative ballpark when considering the entire universe of amps.

    The Bandmaster Reverb is VERY similar to a Vibrolux Reverb. The Bassman would be most different of all.

    You may also find that a slightly different sound is better for you.

    You have to try everything you can get your hands on.
     
  10. stratzrus

    stratzrus Philadelphia Jazz, Funk, and R&B Supporting Member

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    But realize that since none of the amps under consideration have effects loops you'd have to put the reverb before the preamp, which is less than ideal if you plan to push the amp into distortion.
     
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    I disagree, mostly. Fenders aren't "high gain" amps and the preamp begins to distort right about the same time the power amp does.

    Effects loops are most effective in "high gain" amps (amps with built in preamp distortion and master volumes) than in amps like vintage Fenders.
     
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    Never been a user of effects loops anyway
     
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    The Vibrolux Reverb is over rated for headroom, IMO. I've owned and played through some nice examples, and they do well for single coils and some humbuckers, but for other guitars, those two 10's just don't hold up as well as 12's, or 4-10's.
     
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    squeally dan Member

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    What cab do you run with it?
     
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    kekaiakea Rob Yamanoha

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    2x12 vai legacy cab, open back, pair celestion g12h. smaller cab=tight & punchy, and the open back takes the edge off. also easier to transport :). I LOVE my rig.
     
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    I ended up scoring a SF Super Reverb for a good price.
     
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    Very cool. Give us a tone report asap!

    And as always...

    :worthless
     
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    Very nice late 60's, early 70's, SR.

    'More pics, speakers, gut shots, please!

    BTW, looks bedroom clean. Congrats.
     
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    Leonc Wild Gear Hearder Gold Supporting Member

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    Aw man! Nice. Probably a great amp for your gig. Might break up a little early...should still be pretty loud though.
     

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