Which tuners?

Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by afterosmosis, Feb 27, 2009.

  1. afterosmosis

    afterosmosis Member

    Messages:
    2,342
    Joined:
    May 4, 2005
    Location:
    Albuquerque, NM
    I'm putting together a parts telecaster and just can't decide which tuning machines I want to use. So far I've gone with fairly "vintage" looking parts, but I'm spoiled by the more modern Sperzel locking tuners on my strat. I looked at the locking tuners Kluson offers, but IMO they don't look good at all. Recommendations?
     
  2. Trebor Renkluaf

    Trebor Renkluaf I was hit by a parked car, what's your excuse? Silver Supporting Member

    Messages:
    12,054
    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2006
    Location:
    InSaneDiego
    For "vintage" style locking tuners I don't think you can beat Gotoh. They make a locking tuner that looks absolutely vintage, doesn't have the dreaded thumbscrew on the back, don't weigh a ton, and did I say they were locking?

    For best vintage with smoothest, tighest, no slop whatsoever, most positive feel, nothing has beaten the TonePros Klusons for me.
     
  3. TooManyHobbies

    TooManyHobbies Member

    Messages:
    1,957
    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2008
    I recently used the Planet waves locking tuners on a project build.. and they're REALLY nice.. excellent gear ratio, self cutting, etc.
     
  4. testing1two

    testing1two Gold Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,982
    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2008
    Location:
    Southern California
  5. afterosmosis

    afterosmosis Member

    Messages:
    2,342
    Joined:
    May 4, 2005
    Location:
    Albuquerque, NM
    Those Gotoh units look great, thanks for the tip!
     
  6. Bobster

    Bobster Supporting Member

    Messages:
    356
    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2008
    Location:
    Where lions spit water!
    i'm using satin gold grover tuners and it works great for me on my custom..
     
  7. Polynitro

    Polynitro Member

    Messages:
    23,641
    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2008
    I like the vintage locking Gotoh as found on the 52RI and Nocaster
     
  8. jay42

    jay42 Member

    Messages:
    6,834
    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2006
    Location:
    San Diego
    Are the vintage locking Gotohs staggered height? Are any of the lighter weight (lighter than Sperzels) locking tuners staggered?
     
  9. afterosmosis

    afterosmosis Member

    Messages:
    2,342
    Joined:
    May 4, 2005
    Location:
    Albuquerque, NM
    According to this page the post height on the Gotohs is adjustable.
     
  10. Polynitro

    Polynitro Member

    Messages:
    23,641
    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2008
    Gotohs are one of the, if not the lightest....IIRC around 7oz, some of the Sperzels are like 14oz...Just something to consider.
     
  11. Pietro

    Pietro 2-Voice Guitar Junkie and All-Around Awesome Guy

    Messages:
    16,431
    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2007
    Location:
    Maineville, OH
    I think the Gotohs are staggered, or at least available that way. They're great. I actually like Sperzels better, but they aren't bad...
     
  12. RvChevron

    RvChevron Member

    Messages:
    2,467
    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2002
    Location:
    Hong Kong, China
    Weight wise, here’s from Phil Jacoby:

    "Tuner weights
    With associated bushings, washers, nuts and screws
    Weighed using a Pelouze digital postal scale

    Schaller Fender style locking, metal buttons 9.6 oz
    Sperzel Trimlok locking w/ plastic button 7.0 oz
    Sperzel Soundlok w/plastic button 4.6 oz
    -these are the ones Jim is describing with the friction lock
    Gibson Kluson Dlx, 10mm nut, plastic buttons 6.6 oz
    Fender style Kluson Dlx, bushings, by Gotoh 5.0 oz
    Grovers w/ metal tulips (90s ES 165) 9.0 oz"



    Gotoh kluson tuners actualy have a few variations/models:

    #1. Your standard kluson tuners either 6in line or 3+3 as found on Fender US Vintage or similar strats, Gibson LP’s and PRS McCarty, among others.

    #2. Same as #1 but with fixed staggered height

    #3. Same as #1 but with height adjustable posts

    #4. Same as #1 but lockings

    #5. Same as #1 but with both #3 and #4.

    #6. Same as #1 and #3 to #5 but with their newest self-lubing “lubri-plate” technology and “rock solid” string posts that don’t move sideway/laterally and have zero play.

    They all have 1:15 gear ratio.

    #6 being very hard to find and expensive.

    These Gotoh all look 99% just like the original ones. You can’t detect any visual difference unless you look closely. The original post split shaft where the string enters and wraps is now gone and replaced with a slot (like on a slot head screw) for turning the shaft down to clamp the string.

    If you want the lightest tuners and don't mind the modern, non-vintage look, the new Hipshots locking tuner only weighs at 1.164oz singly, yes just over one ounce. They lock just like Sperzels and Schaller.
     
  13. Brett Faust

    Brett Faust Member

    Messages:
    844
    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2008
    Location:
    USA
    A personal favorite is the Gotoh staggered from Allparts.A vintage look and graduated slots as well as posts.Plus they don't cost an arm and a leg.
    If you are not stuck on the vintage look ,Hipshot is a very good choice.The tuners are available with staggered posts as well.
     
  14. afterosmosis

    afterosmosis Member

    Messages:
    2,342
    Joined:
    May 4, 2005
    Location:
    Albuquerque, NM
    The Hipshots are pretty nice looking, very clean. That weight is pretty hard to argue with, too. Thanks for all the options so far, I've got a lot of reading to do!
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice