Who else has given up the heavy string ghost

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  1. strat62

    strat62 Member

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    for me it depends on the guitar

    my 2 main gigging strats have 11-48 power slinkys and big bends are no problem
    my tele likes 10-46. tried 11s but they sounded too "big" (and hard to play)
    i keep another strat in open tuning with a hybrid 12-54 set (and use a heavy pick)
    another with 11's tuned down to Eb
    still another strat that likes the 10-46
    etc...

    taylor 510 open tuned with 13-56
    2nd 510 in standard with a hybrid 11-52
    taylor mini sounds best with 13-56s

    thankfully i don't have any hand problems (at 64) yet
    as always things can change
     
  2. Bryan T

    Bryan T guitar owner Silver Supporting Member

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    I’ve used everything from .008s to .013s. Currently using .011s in the electrics and “true mediums” on the acoustic. I don’t bend much more than 1 1/2 steps, so .011s are fine.
     
  3. ivers

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    I used to play heavy strings, basically because Pat Martino used them and got that fat jazz tone. The latest years I've reconsidered and started mostly using lighter strings (9s). Won't say I now reject the value of using heavier strings, but I'm certainly enjoying playing lighter strings more than fatter ones these days. The lighter strings are also a nice incentive to refine my fretting technique, as it has been quite heavy handed, which tends to push strings out of tune with lighter gauges.

    It has to be mentioned that I have had some considerable issues with hand pain, and this is not just about the bestestest tone for me.
     
  4. RicOkc

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    I've never subscribed to the "heavier is better" outlook on strings.

    SRV started the craze and many people jumped on the band wagon. Many players are starting to wake-up and going to what is more comfortable for them.

     
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  5. slogger

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    I use to put .11s in all my guitars then read an interview with B.B. King who said he used .8s. Ever since I’ve been using .9s and just as happy.
     
  6. Eugene Wallace

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    big strings= big tone.

    the strings fuel the resonance in everything bolted/attached to the guitar, you'll get more sustain, (much ) bigger transients, bigger everything, every note, every vibrato wobble, everything is bigger with bigger strings.
    A thinner gauge thick e string means less resonance, and less fuel, with less fuel, the body isn't pushed far enough to induce muddy frequencies..thinner strings equals less tone which can equal less mud if that is how the body is predisposed to produce frequencies when pushed) ie: it's clearer sounding when hitting the thick e string, or chords including the thick e string when thinner strings are used.

    Other guitars may not do this, they may never ' bottom out' frequency wise when the gas pedal is hit, it depends on how the engine behaves when more fuel is thrown at it.
    It varies from guitar to guitar.

    I personally can't go lower than 12-56 on strats, they feel like rubber bands.

    Other guitar types like LP's and light swamp ash teles, really don't like fat strings at all, they lose all sweetness,they just sound harsh.
    Why? i don't know.

    edit - if you make a guitar made out of New Guinea Rosewood, you will never bottom out using a fatter e string , bass strings included, this wood has big headroom and is simply incapable of sounding muddy anywhere, I call it piano wood.

    edit, i think i do know why thick strings just sound no good on light swamp ash or mahogany, these tonewoods are just sweeter tonewoods. push it too hard and they're not sweet at all. They are in the sweet zone with light strings at that, is just that.
     
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  7. snakestretcher

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    I never saw the point of heavy strings. Why make playing guitar any harder than it already is, for an arguably marginal tonal 'improvement'? 9-42 for me, on everything but acoustics (12-53).
     
  8. Boston617

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    GHS Boomers

    9-42 on all of my non-hardtail guitars.
    9-46 on all of my hardtail guitars.

    Been doing this for a decade & I can't remember the last time I broke a string or didn't enjoy my tone.
     
  9. Parlorman

    Parlorman Silver Supporting Member

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    Right there with you.
     
  10. JJ321

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    I was never went really heavy, but for years I played 10-52s on my electrics. The last year or so, I went down to just 10-46 and found that I like it better on most of my electrics. I also tune down half a step.
     
  11. Average Joe

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    I use tens on most guitars, but for flatwounds anything less than 11s feel too skinny.

    I was up to 13s for a while. That was silly
     
  12. monkeybrains

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    I use 11s because I find the higher string tension makes it easier to change chords quickly. I find thinner strings tend to slip off my fingers.
     
  13. mikebat

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    I think the idea that using bigger strings was “taking the bait” is hilarious. If you can’t tell the difference between a .40 and a .52 low E...you are either using a lot of gain or you have bad ears.

    that said, I usually don’t pick a gauge for the sound as much as for the tension, though I prefer a .52 over a .48 sonically.

    .010 to .46 is fine for me on a 25.75” scale in standard tuning. Anything thinner feels sloppy
     
  14. Radius

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    I never thought of string gauge in terms of tone....ever. It's all about feel.

    If anything, I think 10 or 11 gauge strings hold tune better than 8's. I have no scientific proof on that.
     
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  15. Teleplayer

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    When I started playing back in the mid-70s, I used 9-42 Ernie Ball Super Slinkys. About 90% of the guitar players I knew back then used the same exact strings.

    From the mid-90s until about '97/.98, I used a lot of DR 10s. During 1998 - 2007, I did some great gigging. And when on stage, I was using Gibson BB King hybrids: 10-54. Playing a four hour gig was sometimes a chore toward the end, but the strings (and my guitar) stayed in tune and sounded great. I played solely 25.5 scale guitars at that point.

    For the past 12-13 years, I have used nothing but D'Addario 10-46 strings on all my guitars. They intonate well, never break, stay in tune and sound perfect for my mainly-at-home playing and occasional jam. I play 25.5, 24.75 and 24.625 scale guitars, and use the same strings on all of them. I think I have 20 sets waiting for use.

    At least for me, I could not have cared less what others were using. I always played what felt comfortable for me, and what sounded best to my ears. And in all my years of playing, I don't think I ever broke a string at a gig, rehearsal, jam, recording session or even practicing at home - and when I was on stage, I often beat the daylights out of my guitars.

    To each his/her own. YMMV.
     
  16. ntotoro

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    Depends what you call “heavy.”

    Thicker stings do sound different, but it isn’t always what you want. 11’s on a Suhr of mine felt great and sounded great acoustically (standard tuning), but were too dark amplified with gain. 9’s feel too squirrelly. 10’s don’t even feel like a compromise. They’ve always been the best mix of tone and feel for me.
     
  17. rauchman

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    I've gone from 10's to 9.5's on the Gibsons and 9's on the 25.5" scales. I'm loving the 9.5's and might use them on all. Seems to be the Goldilocks gauge for me. I have a buddy that only uses 11's. Egads!
     
  18. MikeDV

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    Wondering if Billy Gibbons could have actually gotten a heavy sound if he wasn't using 7's....
     
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    Playing for 30 years and playing 3 hour gigs has sold me on 9s for standard tuning and 10s for Eflat. I used to break strings when I was younger, so I upped my gauge but I just don’t have that problem anymore. Might try the new Ernie Ball 8.5 Might Slinky gauge.
     
  20. derekd

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    I've been using .11s on Fender scaled, and .12s on Gibson scaled guitars for decades with no trouble. I like the way they feel and sound.

    However, if I started having any hand issues, I wouldn't think twice about dropping gauges.

    Whatever works and keeps you playing.
     
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