Who makes an amp with 2 output sections?

buckd

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I want an amp with an el34 output section and a 6L6 output section. You know, the best of both worlds...Who makes something like that?

Thanks.
 

buckd

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BTTT, I know somebody makes an amp like this...
 

Dave B

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wasn't boogie's simul class a version of this?
Nope. Had something to do with the combining of Class A and AB simultaneously (simultaneous classes). The technical gurus can chime in now.

Their Blue Angel has both a 6V6 and an EL84 output section - had to switch them (or combine them) with a switch on the front panel. The Budda Dual Stage 30 has a 6L6 and an EL84 section - and these were footswitchable. There have been a few others, and I know someone is (or was until recently) still making one with EL34s on the one side, because I've seen them mentioned here. Sorry, I can't remember the manufacturer.
 

IPlayHamers

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The Bad Cat Tone Cat has a EL84 & EL34 output sections and is amazing sounding. You can even blend the 2 output sections for more variety.

As far as a EL34/6L6 amp, the Bad Cat Custom Shop might do an amp like that, but it would be very expensive.
 

Mark Robinson

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I'm not well versed with the Z line, but isn't there something called a 6545 that has different output complements? I tried it once, but there was no foot switch and it was up high at trutone, the one channel I could hear sounded great.
 

mooreamps

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The only amp that immediately jumps to mind is an Electrosonic Neptune. To get an EL34/6L6 combi will necessitate a custom order and the build time is currently 6 months. If you're not patient enough for a 6 month wait that's perfectly fine, I hafta wait until June before my amp arrives :( I'd be willing to wager that there's something else out there that also fits the bill, but I can't come up with anything.



Well, isn't that interesting. I did not know there was someone else doing mixed mode amplifiers. My 10 watt, 18 watt, and 36 watt amps are mixed mode amps as well, but I think my layout is a little different. For example, I will use the 12ax7's for the treble pre-amp channel, and the 6SL7's for the bass pre-amp channel. I can do these builds as either mono or stereo. Also, I have my own circuit for power tube current regulated power scaling. I do this way to avoid the "starved plate" condition created by a plate rail voltage adjusted power scaler.​


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glenecho

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Mesa Road King...but from the clips I've heard it's a very subtle difference in tone when going from the 6L6's to the EL34's
 

The Captain

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Mesa Road King for sure, but FWIW, I believe you can make 6L6 tubes sound like EL34, but not vice versa, which would explain the comment above. I can easily get a cracking Marshall tone from my H&K Triamp with 6L6 tubes, esp since 2 channels are especially voiced to do just that. I had previously been keen to get a Road King for the EL34/6L6 switching option, but I'm not so fussed any more. I can get all those tones without it.

Let the screaming begin...............
 

trisonic

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Maven Peal Ganesha can do that. You can also switch between the two or have all four on from the front of the amp.
Incredible amp.

Best, Pete.
 

tele_jas

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Yeah, the Mesa Road King.... It's a subtle difference, but it's still a nice difference and gives you some great tonal options. The big tone of 6L6's, with the cutting mids of EL34's.

I liked mine, wish I still had it sometimes...... then I realize I don't play in a rock band any more ;)
 

buckd

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Thanks for the suggestions guys. I've got a good start to my hunt!

Chris
 

waxnsteel

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Road King: all 4 channels

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=5144931

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Budda Dual Stage 30 uses 6L6s and EL84s

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All the clips run through with one set of tubes, then switches to the other set, no other changes made. Changing the tubes does very little(at least on those amps. Changing speakers

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much bigger change to my ears.

I have a Mesa Blue Angel, too, and I consider the change to be a little more noticeable, but still not a night/day thing.

EL34s CAN sound enough like 6L6s (AND vice-versa) that it's obviously not a limiting factor to getting a tone. For example, I thought the EL34 Shiva sounded more "Fendery" than the 6L6 one.
 

wichita

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Get in touch..
I may have a solution for you.
I guess what I would ask as a clarification is do you want to use both at the same time through different cabs or just be able to switch between the two?
 

wichita

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Thats what I thought Doug.
I was under the impression that he wants to run both at once, yes?
 

voojo

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