Whoa, Bogner Helios went up in price.....

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  1. BrentSP

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    Yeah...I thought it was a few hundred cheaper too? Supply and demand:)
     
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    BrentSP, actually the MAP price was $2799, which was an introductory price. We kept that pricing for well over a year, but had to finally adjust it for build costs. If you were on the list locked in at the old price prepaid, I'm assuming they would be honoring it at that?
     
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    No not prepaid, list to be notified when one comes in. And I'm sure your right 2799, once it changed I couldn't remember the exact price it use to be. I didn't realize it was a introductory price.
     
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    well I ain't paying no $3,099 for no helios....

    haha, then you ain't getting no helios....

    know what I'm talking about?
     
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    Hopefully they will not be using the same 40 dollar classictone transformers and fixed the noisy effects loop issues for that price...
     
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  8. tone?

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    What I was going to say.

    Hopefully they upgrade the transformers as well.
     
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    Whoa. If you've seen the inside of a Bogner amp You'd never pay +3,000$ for one.

    Well built, yes, but PCB with components that are impossible to trace if broken.

    At that kinda prices there are alternatives.
     
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    Just to be clear on the Helios, they are not PCB, but handwired.
     
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    Could you post some pics of the inside? I'm sure everyone would appreciate seeing this great sounding amp a bit closer.
     
  12. Ron

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    A printed circuit board (PCB) can be made by machine (components installed by robotics, then wave soldered) or hand wired (components installed by hand, then each pad soldered by hand).

    I think you mean the Helios is point-to-point wired. This method can use a component board with terminals or eyelets (like old-school Marshall and Fender) or terminal strips (like Matchless) - or a combination of these assembly techniques.
     
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    completely bogus.

    My Helios is built with top notch components. Neg Gen Sozos, F&T caps, turret board etc....
     
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    Hello my Bogner support.

    Can you answer to this long running "issue" with using Classictone transformers?
    What is the reason you didnt go with Heyboar or Merren?

    Could we upgrade them from a third party to Bogner specs?

    thanks for chiming in.
     
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    http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=156337

    Couple of pics here...looks like a pretty good build. Can you tell which PT's OT's they use? Just curious more than anything. A damn fine sounding amp from the demos - would love to play one.
     
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    I opened it to BIAS and its built very well.

    Only feedback I want is on the transformers.
     
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    Yes Ron, you are correct, that should have been point-to-point wired in my statement.

    tone? I'll have to check regarding transformers info. I'm not the support guy, but Dir of Sales/Ops to help have a conduit of info here between us where I can.

    Thx Andy
     
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    My understanding is that point-to-point is something like what Matchless does. This Bogner and older Marshalls are hand-wired turret board construction. Maybe a distinction without a difference.
     
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    Is there some truth to this statement?
     

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