why are delays that offer modulation so popular?

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  1. sanhozay

    sanhozay klon free since 2009 Silver Supporting Member

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    is it a stylistic thing?

    what does a modulated delay signal contribute to the sound that is important and meaningful, as opposed to a delay ***with modulation?

    i'm curious how people are using their delays. i can see the value in creating a dense landscape of soupy sounds but some of these applications sound quite congested. delay has been my favorite effect but lately i'm dialing things in more & more conservatively.


    ***edit: i meant to write WITHOUT. i can see how this is confusing!
     
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  2. BeauZooka

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    A little wobble on my delays sound so good!
     
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  3. flyonthewall150

    flyonthewall150 Supporting Member

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    It adds a beautiful warbly chorus that makes things sound less dull but not as overwhelming as using a regular chorus pedal. It just sounds great.
     
  4. MoonshineMan

    MoonshineMan Member

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    Just a touch can thicken a mix. It also can sound pretty cool in isolation or a solo.
    If the mix is thick enough, I leave it off.
     
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    Bluesful Supporting Member

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    Motion of the ocean and all that.............
     
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    Makes the delay sound more alive and more naturally random, like a tape delay.
     
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    Pedal makers use to keep tricks for each NAMM.
    It can be top mounted jacks, extra pots, extra switches, mini size...
     
  8. Naigewron

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    Wait, what do you mean? What's the difference between these two?
     
  9. Jr Deluxe

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    Cause they're Delaycious. No wait. They're Modnificent. And they Soundtastic.
     
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  10. Vic Interceptor

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    because it makes an otherwise sterile effect a little more organic. It gives it an unpredictable "alive" sound. I for one only like tape echo/delay, and grew up with a tube echoplex, so maybe it's just what you get use to.
     
  11. captaincoconut

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    If the signal from your tape echo is modulated, it's actually not well maintained :p
     
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  12. eclecticsynergy

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    I believe he meant modulated delay as opposed to delay pedal plus modulation pedal.
     
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  13. Cool Hand Luke

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    Modulated delay leaves the dry signal alone and only applies the modulation to the repeats. It gives the sound depth without is sounding like chorus.
     
  14. Tootone

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    It is a legacy from Tape Echo modulation, which was an unintended side effect of mechanical and tape defects. The defects used to cause the echo repeats to pitch shift slightly. You will hear the term wow and flutter to describe it. Guitarists liked it.

    When analog BBD delays came out, they found they could use a simple LFO (as found in Chorus pedals) to modulate the delay time slightly, which added "vibrato" to the echoes. Guitarists liked that too.

    So it has stuck around.

    It is different to a Chorus + Delay because only the delays "echoes" are being modulated. It is less intense.

    I agree with OP... too much modulation/warble/pitch shift on a delay sounds ghastly.
     
  15. h-pr

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    In all honesty, some of these modulation circuits sound so bad that it's understandable why you would ask that question.

    Good modulation can, however, enhance and enrich the sound.
     
  16. adamrobertt

    adamrobertt Supporting Member

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    Nothing sounds more heavenly than a Deluxe Memory Man with medium/long repeats and some washy chorus dialed in. mmmm
     
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    geek-mo Supporting Member

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    I wonder if it's because they sound good.
     
  18. Jackie Treehorn

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    I think the primary reason is that you can do flange/chorus/vibrato/doubling effects when you set the time very short.
     
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  19. Abram4235

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    I hate modulated delays, they sound phoney to me. The only exception I've run into is the dunlop Echoplex. That pedal sounds amazing, especially the worn tape setting. Even then though, I got tired of it as there was no way to turn it off and went with a more straight ahead delay pedal. (DD2)
     
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    If you get a chance to hear my Earthquaker Devices Space Spiral just once you'll never ask that question again!
     
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