All I know is that I’m listening to VH3 again today on Apple Music. To give EVH another shot at the album that made me stop caring about them.
Consider how many Hendrix albums came out after his death.I’m sure EVH recorded plenty of stuff that we’ve never heard. Maybe, none of it is complete. Perhaps, there are only fragments of ideas. Still, I’ll bet some of it could be turned into something that sounds finished. It would take a lot of work for somebody to listen to hours of recordings and find the stuff worthy of turning into something that sounds complete. Then, there would be editing and recording with various musicians to make it into something worthy of release.
I could see Wolfie taking on a project along those lines. Even if he only came up with one or two ideas that could be expanded into completed tunes or songs, something like that would be worth a listen. Perhaps, Wolf could add his own guitar playing to help fill in some gaps, have Alex record drums, bring in Michael Anthony for bass and backing vocals, DLR and/or Sammy could write lyrics and sing.
Rolling Stones put out 21 albums from 1965 to 1989. All of them were top 5.DLR himself said if you're fortunate enough to achieve fame you've got 7 years then you're done. I can't think of any artist/group who rose to VH level and lasted longer than 7 years AT THAT LEVEL.
Great post. The idea that Eddie didn't create more music is a bit ludicrous, he was pretty much all about music. Doesn't mean we are entitled to hear every little thing, hopefully we will get to hear some and be thankful for it.The 5150 archives are rumored to contain Thousands of hours of Eddie Van Halen's playing, creating, and working parts out. Nothing has been forthcoming from the Family - but if I know Irving Azoff - He already has been working on producers and mixers - which may include Don Landee & Ted Templeton - and possibly his son Wolf - and his brother Alex who played quite a bit with his brother and may know where things are. Don Landee has said in the past that he would work with Eddie 5 or 6 days a week recording and archiving.
I'm guessing you disagree with me. Seriously yea lotta artists put out work for a lot of years. After their salad years it was crap. Don't tell the Stones stuff after Some Girls wasn't anything but crap or Springsteen after Born to Run or U2 after Joshua Tree or McCartney after Band on the Run and the Beatles were popular/huge 63-70 ie 7 years. Sorry I heard a big bubble burst.Rolling Stones put out 21 albums from 1965 to 1989. All of them were top 5.
From 71 through 81 (after the Beatles broke up) they were all number one.
Springsteen had 17 albums since 1975. Of those, 16 were top 5, and 9 went to number one.
U2 has put out 11 albums since 1989 of which 9 are number 1.
McCartney has released 25 albums since the Beatles broke up, of which 19 were top 5, and seven were number one. Credit him with the Beatles as well (he got kind of famous there before he died), and that's another 19 albums over 7 years, with 15 number ones and two at number two. Bringing the total to 44 albums over 52 years, of which only 6 did not make the top 5, and with 22 at number one.
There are others who sold more than VH and lasted longer than 7 years, or even longer than VH - Prince, Lady Gaga, Barbra Streisand, Stevie Wonder, Billy Joel, Bob Dylan.
I just went over and checked out her posts. Very interesting. And that part about Ed randomly pulling a 7-11 burrito out of his coat pocket while crying listening to her song is hilarious.On Facebook Sass Jordan has been sharing her experince with the Van Halen brothers when they called her over one day not too long after Sammy left the band. It has some insight into what the guys were like and going through at the time. Good read.
That said, she specifically mentions that after seeing how they (Ed in particular) created music, she was almost surprised that they were ever able to put out a complete song at all. Very all over the place. That said, perhaps some or much of that was more a result of their life situation at the time. Either way its an interesting read.
In their 42 years as a band, 14 albums, that’s an album every 3.5 years that’s pretty good.12 studio albums, 2 live albums plus a bunch of collaborations and contributions not enough?
EVH vs PrinceHe made a to of music, he just didn’t think it was worthy of release. Much like Prince he was always recording but had very high standards on what he wanted out in the world.
My guess is that, again like Prince, it will all get released eventually.
1. no “VS”....
EVH vs Prince
Ed was a multi-instrumentalist and riff composer. Prince was a vocalist, multi-instrumentalist extraordinaire, arranger, lyricist and prolific song writer. It's a bit of an apple vs orange comparison.
No argument, just a discussion on a guitar forum. Calling it trolling is lazy.1. no “VS”.
That’s lazy qnd incredibly reductive to both of their legacies.
They were both geniuses.
Why make it adversarial?
I was only pointing out how prolific they both were and how they left behind hours of unreleased material.
To make that into a “VS” argument is just trolling.
2. Not apples and oranges.
The only thing Ed didn’t write on VH songs was the lyrics, but it’s well documented that he wrote/composed/arranged the songs, played guitar, bass and keys.
Same as Prince.
He didn’t play the drums b/c his brother did.
Prince didn’t have a sibling that played music with him.
If Prince had a brother like Alex in the band do you think he would’ve
played the drums?
What Prince did do, and Ed did not, was transcend his genre.
Prince didn’t have permanent band like Ed did, so he wasn’t confined by having to serve others and their expectations,
He also had more of a musicial wanderlust that Ed did.
Plus Prince also had a massive chip on his shoulder and that drove him to prove to everyone that he could write/play/perform any kind of music and be the best at it.
Ed had a chip on his shoulder as well and that drove him to be the amazing guitarist/musician he became.
But where Prince’s chip pushed him out to confront the world and demand it‘s attention it’s clear that Ed‘s chip pushed him more inward as he was less interested in taking on the world.
Ed’s alcholism didn’t help either.
That’s what I meant really. You have your whole life to make your first album, and a year to make your second. Some people , no matter how talented, run out of ideas. I heard but don’t really know, that the last VH album with David was built upon demos done years ago and unused. Maybe he just didn’t have more ideas or didn’t write stuff he felt came close to their early catalog.Is that correct? I thought from 1974 to 1978, they did six studio albums, two live albums and four solo albums (albeit all marketed as Kiss). Also the hilarious Hanna-Barbera film.
Quite impressive, really.
there is a difference: Hendrix’ work was sitting in studios that were funded by the record company.Consider how many Hendrix albums came out after his death.
I suspect Ed's widow has more of a say than they do.there is a difference: Hendrix’ work was sitting in studios that were funded by the record company.
Ed’s work is sitting in his studio that is on his property, owned by him. Wolfie and Al will probably have far far more control over Ed’s work , than what the Hendrix catalog had