Everyone should just use a Helix/Fractal system straight to FOH.
No muss, no fuss.
No muss, no fuss.
I don't want the extra size, cabling and power tap required to add a switcher on my board.
Also I prefer stomping the actual pedals for live playing, as they are easier to see (different colors and box sizes/shapes) and I am in control of their spacing.
With switchers I have a row of identical switches on a black strip equally spaced, I feel like there is more potential for mistakes in the heat of battle.
I have ten pedals on my board. I used a looper. I used it to check if the pedals were affecting my sound. Found out they weren’t.Just imagining the effort needed to route cable for a 10 pedal with 10 loop switcher makes me want to puke.
Those guys also used max 3 pedals at a time.The short answer is, they have found other ways to compensate, through their gear selections and settings.
A good example is Kirk Fletcher. He went on TPS and had Dan set him up with a Quartermaster. Kirk seemed genuinely shocked at the sounds he was getting with everything set the same as without the switcher, and it all sounded gainer and brighter than I associate with Kirk. So now, with his new and improved pedal set up, he has to go from the ground up retweaking his pedals he has already put time into dialing in, and maybe needing to replace a thing or two to get where he likes to be.
It's all relevant. I love switchers due to the functionality they give me, so I build my rigs around them. If a player is accustomed to doing things without the switcher and doesn't value the function, it is absolutely possible to get amazing tone without one, as every guitar hero before the rack craze can testify to.
Jimmy Page, Hendrix, SRV, etc. etc. never had one, and I happen to think they sound pretty darn good.
Those guys also used max 3 pedals at a time.
I agree. this is the answer to half the questions posed on TGP.I think some of it is the issues raised above, but some of it is likely because they are focused on practical issues in touring rigs in a band context at gig volume rather than minutia that can only be heard with a guitar being played in isolation under a level of scrutiny that never occurs in real world musical situations.
Same reason I gigged the same amp for a decade and became unhappy with it only after I stopped gigging.
Because contrary to what a lot of people seem to believe, use of a true bypass loop switcher does not necessarily equate with better quality sound, and may under many, if not most, circumstances, actually substantially *degrade* the quality of your sound.Hey guys
since the looper/switching systems like the G2, Boss ES8, One Control Crocodile etc. have become extremely popular within the last couple of years, I wonder why not every pro guitarist, who uses a lot of pedals before the amp, uses a switcher? There are many advantages to it like it keeps the signal as clean and "tone saving" as possible. When I used my 10 pedals in line before the amp and switched them all off and then played through the amp it felt there was a blanket over my amp (although I had high quality buffers in the pedal chain). When I purchased a G2 it felt much more like I was plugging the guitar directly to the amp.
What about John Mayer or John Frusciante for example? They use a huge pedalboard but without any switcher and their tone is just phenomenal in my opinion? Do the pros who do not use any switcher have another trick to not lose too much signal when playing a lot of pedals? Maybe through some rack unit or something? Or is it just because they play so loud or compensate the tone loss by turning up the treble more (Since you lose some high end when playing through a lot of pedals in line).
What about your experiences with playing a looper/switching system? Did it enhance your tone?
I am looking forward to your answers!