Why don't I like Fulltone pedals?

Crikey

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That's what I've found as well. His stuff is awesome with through my '71 Pro Reverb / Jaguar setup.

Oh, and a tidbit on the Distortion Pro, and maybe this has been discussed before but, run it below 9volts if you have that capability. We were running one the other night at like 4-5 volts or so, right at the edge of where it would totally die and fart out, just above that point..and it was coool. A little bit less sustain, but the sound it was making was very inspiring.
Hey, that's a useful tip, thanks. I'll throw in that a good way to run low voltage for those pedals that sound better with it is to use rechargeable batteries. Most of them are actually 7.2V rather than 9V even when fully charged. Of course with a lot of pedals, they don't sound good with less than 9V, so you have to figure out the preferred diet of each pedal.

Crikey
 

StompBoxBlues

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Bashing? Me no bash! I just had high expectations for two very highly regarded pedals, and I was disappointed. Just curious if I was missing something, and since I don't play live much anymore, but rather at lower volumes for recording, it seems from the replies that perhaps these pedals were designed for use at gig levels. I'll buy that explanation for the OCD, but it shouldn't make any difference for the ChoralFlange.

In any case, I think I'll try the Fulldrive II Mosfet and report back.
While I don't know the ChoralFlange, I do know that my H2O chorus really opens up at higher volumes too...it does something really nice with the sound, kind of rounding it off, not sounding too effecty (at least how I set it) and at bedroom volumes for some reason can get a little on the "brittle" side with the same settings.

It might be the case with the choral flange as well.

I posted upstream, having the same experience with DLS pedals, after buying two different ones, and I have been hit and miss with Fulltone.
I real want to try out the OCD, I think it might be just the thing for me, but though I like the '69 a lot, the trem didn't do it for me, the deja-mini is kind of...I like but am not liking as much as Mojo, etc.

It very well may be the lower volume thing though has a lot more to do with it. To be honest, it is sacrisy to say, but for home recording, I think even a V-amp can sound great into the board when set right.
And I just got a Tonelab LE (I can't use ME's live, and don't really want to so it all works out) that I think I can use a LOT for home recording soon.
 

JUSTJOB

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I think he makes great pedals! I own a 10th Ann. MOSFET FD2 and a 70's fuzz and both perform great for me and my needs. Actually I believe he set the OD standard quite high with the FD2 and it certainly has become a classic on many recordings and pedalboards everywhere. His pedals are popular cause they get the job done, no if's, and's, or but's. If Fulltone pedals truely weren't any good then he would have gone out of buisiness a long time ago instead of being the growing thriving pedalbuilder he is today.
 

Free

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I've owned and gigged with a FDII, a Soul Bender and an OCD. I thought all three had a similar tonal voicing. I didn't like it but noticed it on all three pedals.

dave
Interesting. A couple have also implied this - I think we're on to something here. Have others noticed a warmth and LACK of treble "glass" or upper midrange with their Fulltone pedals? That's what I hear. I know that works wonderfully for Fenders, but not so great for LP's and 335's. I didn't know Mike was so Fender oriented, so that makes sense now. I mean I love a few of his pedals, but I do always have to max the treble/tone (unless the germaniam transistors based pedals are in a very cold climate btw - cold brings out treble). Is it just his voicing tendancy?
 

Theorywolf

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I have owned both the OCD and Choralflange, and sold them both within days of purchase. They both just seemed to lack something, but I can't put my finger on what it is. I found a good deal on a Fulldrive II mosfet, but I'm reluctant due to my previous disappointments.

Am I missing something? Why are his pedals so popular?

:dude
Cheers
Same here! Go with a keeley mode TS9 and a MJM Blues Devil, with a good booster pedal, tonal heaven in my opinion! What else do you need?

Michael
 

klaetos

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I just picked up a FDII Mosfet. I wasn't sure about it but had a gift card to GC and figured I could always trade it off or sell it. Played around with it for quite a bit in different positions on the dials and switches as well as coil tap vs hums. It was good but not overly impressed. I then hooked it up to 18volts and it really changed things. Seems to add much more sizzle. You really need to try the 18volt on this one. My favorite setting so far is

Vol. 1:00
Tone 12-1:00
Gain 9:00
Boost 1:00

I like both the Vintage and FM but my favorite is Vintage Mosfet. The comp cut turns in into a clean boost without any of the transisters in the circuit if I read it right. Works good, especially on 18volt. Wow lot of juice available.

First impression says its worth keeping around for a while. Should have a chance to try it live this weekend.
 

playon

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I have owned both the OCD and Choralflange, and sold them both within days of purchase. They both just seemed to lack something, but I can't put my finger on what it is. I found a good deal on a Fulldrive II mosfet, but I'm reluctant due to my previous disappointments.

Am I missing something? Why are his pedals so popular?

:dude
Cheers
I like Mike and he builds great pedals, high quality construction, etc. But like you I have never been able to bond with any of them, and although I've owned half a dozen of his pedals (overdrives, trem, etc) they all were sold after a fairly short time. I think it just comes down to the builder's philosophy of what sounds good & whether or not you as a player are on the same page with that philosophy. Different people have different ideas, maybe Mike & I just don't agree.

I found his stuff sounds good when you hear it by itself but when on stage there was something I didn't like about all of them. I have the same problem with a lot of Seymour Duncan pickups, there is just something in there that I don't dig. And BTW I do play Fenders a lot of the time.
 

clapointe

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I've owned a few Fulltone over the years and I was let down by the Soulbender , 69' and the Clyde wah BUT................... I have always loved my Fulldrive II and I think the Mini Deja'Vibe kicks ass !
 

ed84246

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Kind of hard to describe, but to me, the Fulltone stuff always had this "elastic" kind of tone is the best way I can describe it - something unatural in the decay of the note that seemed to pull it back faster than it should be. They don't sound very natural "part of the amp" like Menatones or Lovepedals to me. They're not bad pedals by any means - I just found pedals that work better for me and sound more natural to my ears. (I'm not talking about tranparancy here, personally, if I want transparancy, I'll use my guitar and my amp - if I use a pedal, I want to know my 50-400 dollars actually bought me a pedal that does something and affects my tone).
 

Paul Parrish

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Kind of hard to describe, but to me, the Fulltone stuff always had this "elastic" kind of tone is the best way I can describe it - something unatural in the decay of the note that seemed to pull it back faster than it should be. They don't sound very natural "part of the amp" like Menatones or Lovepedals to me. They're not bad pedals by any means - I just found pedals that work better for me and sound more natural to my ears. (I'm not talking about tranparancy here, personally, if I want transparancy, I'll use my guitar and my amp - if I use a pedal, I want to know my 50-400 dollars actually bought me a pedal that does something and affects my tone).
Yah, I know what you mean ;), I hear that in his wah, the deja'vibe, the booster, the chorus...you know, that "elastic unnatural decay"
(laughter) it's in EVERYTHING!
 

sanders4617

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With my FD2, if I am on Comp-Cut, I have to turn the tone almost to 0 so its not so ice picky. For the FM, I have to turn it up a little more, and for Vintage, I don't even have to go halfway to get a nice bright sound.

I am using a Fender.. but I don't think its too dark of a pedal.

BTW.. I actually feel like my Ibanez TS9RI sounds more transparent or whatever compared to the FD2. When I put the guitar in the 4 position on the pickup and play clean, then kick in the FD2, I can't get the sparkle I like. When I do the same with the TS9, its still there.

I like the FD2.. but I dig the TS9 a little more, especially for it being so basic in tone options.
 

Shiny McShine

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I have owned both the OCD and Choralflange, and sold them both within days of purchase. They both just seemed to lack something, but I can't put my finger on what it is. I found a good deal on a Fulldrive II mosfet, but I'm reluctant due to my previous disappointments.

Am I missing something? Why are his pedals so popular?

:dude
Cheers
  • Clyde Wah is magic to me.
  • Deja 2 is totally authentic both in design and sound (recently sold mine though because it's big with the foot controller and all).
That's been my experience.
 

popsongsmith

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Kind of hard to describe, but to me, the Fulltone stuff always had this "elastic" kind of tone is the best way I can describe it - something unatural in the decay of the note that seemed to pull it back faster than it should be. They don't sound very natural "part of the amp" like Menatones or Lovepedals to me. They're not bad pedals by any means - I just found pedals that work better for me and sound more natural to my ears. (I'm not talking about tranparancy here, personally, if I want transparancy, I'll use my guitar and my amp - if I use a pedal, I want to know my 50-400 dollars actually bought me a pedal that does something and affects my tone).
That's it! You nailed it with the "not part of the amp" comment. A few months back, I was over at Boston Guitar Works, one of the better music shops here in New England, checking out some Dr. Z amps. Just for kicks, I asked to try a Fulltone Bass Driver at the same time, since I had heard that the Bass Driver had a bit wider frequency response than the Fulldrive boxes. No matter how I tweaked it, I could not get a pleasing tone out of that box, and I tried it with several different amps. As you indicated, it just would not meld with the natural tone of any of the amps I used. After I while, I asked to try the Duncan Twin Tube, which I had always been curious about as well. HOLY CRAP! In complete opposition to the Fulltone, I couldn't get a BAD sound out of the TT. As a boost, for some added dirt, and even in high-gain territory, the Duncan sounded fantastic. Harmonically complex, responsive, thick and sweet, it seemed--as someone on Harmony Central pointed out--to literally pull the tone out of the pickups. And it utterly melded with any amp I tried it with.
 

seltaeb

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I love my OCD. I purchased one in early December and it sounds very good. I think a lot of it depends on two factors:

1. The amps and guitars you're using it with.
2. The settings you're applying.

On the first point, I should mention that I'm using the OCD through a Vox AC30, which is an amp that already has a lot of midrange. A friend told me that the OCD is a much better match for this amp than say, a Tubescreamer (which adds midrange), and he was right. The guitars I use the OCD with are an Epiphone Casino w/ P90s, and a Strat with Gold Lace Sensor pickups. With those combinations, I am very happy.

Secondly, I have noticed on a lot of those 'pedalboard photo' threads, that the knobs on many of the OCDs here are dialed in at around 3:00 or higher... I usually set mine at about 11:00, and adjust the volume accordingly. Perhaps anyone not happy with their OCD should roll back the settings a bit. You might be pleasantly surprised at the clarity of the drive (if that makes any sense) :p

Good luck!
 

Fifthstone

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Secondly, I have noticed on a lot of those 'pedalboard photo' threads, that the knobs on many of the OCDs here are dialed in at around 3:00 or higher... I usually set mine at about 11:00, and adjust the volume accordingly. Perhaps anyone not happy with their OCD should roll back the settings a bit. You might be pleasantly surprised at the clarity of the drive (if that makes any sense) :p
+1. I find the best tones from the OCD are at moderate settings, using it for drive rather than distortion, if that make sense.

I've also re-discovered my FDII. The comp cut mode is now my favorite, with excellent SRV tones in there (Fender Strat into Germino or Reeves).

I'm cooling on the 69. Sounds muddy lately.

I'm liking the 70 more lately.
 

jbgordon

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I have a Clyde Deluxe Wah that I love. I had a FDII that I never could get to do anything even remotely pleasing to my ears. Thinking back on how little I knew about electrics and pedals and the like, I could probably do a little better with it now. My Keeley BD-2 serves me just fine though!

I would like to try a Supratrem at some point also.
 

georgeb4

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I like Fulltone pedals. They are transparent, quiet, well built and reasonably priced. That said, the only one I currently own is the Bass Drive. I have a Fat Boost 2 on the way so we'll see. Most of the time I find a pedal from another manufacturer has more "vibe" than the Fulltone equivalent, but not all of his pedals are going to be your favorite. Especially with so many pedals out there...
 

TheGrooveking

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Please list the guitar/pickup, amp and other effects you are running with the Fulltone pedals. I have found that all pedals have some limitations and the application of them is critical, no pedal to date has made everyone happy, but since tone is so subjective it would help to have some specifics.

Personally I love Fulltone stuff, but I don't use it for everything and have it work on some guitar/amp setups and fail at others. But one thing for sure, Fulltone's stuff is well built.

TheGrooveking
 

obscured

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I own a Version 3 OCD, a Choralflange, and used to own an original Fat Boost until it was stolen. I've never gotten anything but good sounds out of all them. The OCD in particular is really good for what I use it for, adding a bit of gain to an already crunchy amp. The Choralflange isn't that good at really warbly chorus sounds, but since I use it for a subtle shimmer I don't really care. Wish I knew about the Analog Man Bi-Chorus before I bought it though, that thing kicks ass.
 






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