why isn't their an amp like this??

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by TheHeavy, May 25, 2015.

  1. TheHeavy

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    an apartment amp with a 4x8 speaker configuration. I need the low wattage but I could use some more air movement. Champs may sound good but next to a 4x12 at low volume they sound too small.
    Imagine a champ housed in a combo that was 2/3 the size of a bassman combo and running 4 low powered 8" speakers?

    Id do it myself but I haven't a clue when it comes to wiring.
     
  2. the_Chris

    the_Chris It's All Been Done Before Gold Supporting Member

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    From what I've gathered, Champ amps use 4 ohm speaker outs. If you wanted a 4 x 8'' combo, ideally you'd look at 4 - 16 ohm speakers in parallel for a 4 ohm load.

    What you'll gain is a whole 'nuther story. I've never tried 8'' speakers, so I don't know if they can sound as big as 10'' or 12'' speakers usually do. I'm going to assume it's going to be more mid and treble focused with less bass and due to the size being smaller, more focused.

    Sounds like it could be fun with something like this: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/acce...ers-g8c-8-20w-american-vintage-guitar-speaker

    I'd imagine it would lose the whole portability factor of the Champ and since you have a lot more wattage handling out of the speakers, they probably wouldn't breakup (certainly not at anything that would be regarded as apartment volumes).
     
  3. clarity451

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    I had a blackface champ clone that was 2x10. It was pretty sweet.
     
  4. 8len8

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    I personally would much rather have a 1x12 compared to a 4x8. IMHO a 4x8 would sound tinny and boxy.
     
  5. TheHeavy

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    Razer edge makes a cab thats similar to what im talking- the jazz folks luv em. But not a tube combo.
     
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  7. Cosmik de Bris

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    4 X 8" are equivalent to a 16" speaker, if my back of the matchbox calculations are correct.
     
  8. highrise

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    Except the larger speaker has greater mass...which even with identical motor strength means a bit slower reaction time.

    I generally prefer larger speakers to smaller ones...


    8's are great...for midbass in my car.

    For guitar? Give me 12's. Oh, you're out of those? Then give me a couple 15's. ;)
     
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    More and better speakers always works..to a point.
    Add more power and volume and it's even better.
    BTW it no longer is a small cheap amp.
     
  11. Udertyrat

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    I use a Carvin V3M and 2 Ear Candy Bailey cabs. The speakers in them were cheap (and I blew them when jamming with a loud drummer) so I got 4 Weber 8f125 at 30 watt and 4 ohms. Each cabinet is wired in series. Works great and can definitely hang. I've gigged with it and no complaints.

    Tried to upload a picture but no luck. Still learning how to use this stuff...
     
  12. Cosmik de Bris

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    So the 8s have a better frequency response, you can always cut the high stuff.
     
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    Wider frequency response is usually bad for electric guitar. An EQ won't always compensate for it
     
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    Steve Kimock raves about the Jupiter 8s. I'm interested in trying them out in the Allen Princeton cab mentioned above.
     
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    I've got a load of 8s that I am dying to make into a couple of cabinets. I chopped up a huge baldwin tone cabinet and I aam thinking about making the bottom into the 8x8. I am thinking about an 8x8 and possible a 4x8.
     
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    8x8? what ohms would that end up as? and what head could you use with that? I'm intrigued..
     
  17. GCDEF

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    I had the Blackstar 4 x 8 cabinet. It didn't sound tinny or boxy at all. Actually sounded surprisingly good, but it was very inefficient.
     
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    I'd like to hear that! That sounds nice.
     
  19. Cosmik de Bris

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    No it isn't and of course it will.
     
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    Their, there, they're. They sound the same but they're all different.
     

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