Why no master volume amps?

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  1. tele_jas

    tele_jas Member

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    How many of you like non master volume amps? Or do you like Master volume amps?

    For tone, I perfer non master volume.... For convience, I perfer Master volume amps.

    What do you like?
     
  2. Peppy

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    My three main amps...Swart AST-PRO, Vibro-King and AC30 TBX...all have no master volume.
     
  3. XKnight

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    I like a little bit of both.
     
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    I have some master volume amps:

    Carol-Ann Tucana
    Carol-Ann OD2
    Mad Professor
    Matchless King Cobra

    I have some non-master volume amps:

    Red Iron T-Rex
    65 Amps Royal Albert
    '66 Fender Princeton Reverb
    '65 Ampeg Jet

    In a perfect world I would only use non-master volume amps.
     
  5. sixty2strat

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    grew up playing a jmp 4 holer 50 watter ...so that is the sound I hear. the jcm 800 were more expensive and too metal to my ears. so became a fan of
    fewer knobs =better.....has a boogie it sgone but still got my valco oahu from 1950,,,,vol. and a combo on off/ tone knob...so simple even a drummer could work it
     
  6. fabulusfab777

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    LOL...... That's a good one.....

    Personnaly, i have a Winfield 18/30 Non MV that i really like and learned to use too but for home purpuse, i do like my Master Volume Blues jr. but again with a good NMV amp, you can play quiet and get dirt from a pedal but it's just not the same thing. I will, in a near future try the Ultimate Attenuator thing.... would be best of both world.
     
  7. LaXu

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    Non-master volume amps are useless to me. Yes, many of them sound good but have to be turned way loud. I feel that a good master volume amp can sound just as good, only at more friendly volumes.
     
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    With an Ultimate Attenuator, there is no reason to fear NMV amps.
     
  9. JamesHealey

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    NMV has a different feel, tone and texture it's deffinatly the better.
    but 100w NMV is ridiculous and u cannot gig it, no attenuator works propperly and i've had enough of my 100w JMP.

    Im getting a 20w amp plexi clone w/PPIMV so i can dime it at gigs and use it as a non-mv and use it at home using the MV without killing the neighbours.
     
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    I dont own any NMV amps. They dont suit my needs. Bob
     
  11. Groovey Records

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    It doesnt matter to me I dime both kinds
     
  12. Ohzoso

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    I like non master volume amps with a master volume (a good ppimv that is).
     
  13. Deadduck

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    That's a good point. My Tiny Terror head has 3 knobs, gain, tone, and volume. The volume is post phase inverter, so it's kinda like adding another gain stage. Anyway, it works well to get a good crunch at non ear-splitting levels.
     
  14. Rosewood

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    Trade off for a little flexibility, I can live with that.
     
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    I tend to like the old school non-master amps. That said - I do like a good Matchless though. It's one of the only Master-Volume amps that sounds good. Since I am a pedal user - I find that Master Volume amps attenuate the boost capabilities of my dirt pedals. I find it very annoying. The tone with get more distorted and fatter - not not much volume increase.
     
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    I love the tone of non master volume amps, but I find them useless without an attenuator of some sort. All my amps are master volume amps.
    JCM800 - Jubilee - Ecsatcy
     
  17. tubetwang

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    non master for President pretty please...

    Twang
     
  18. Dave Orban

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    I have two MV amps and 5 non-MV amps in my stable.

    While I generally prefer the non-MV amps for recording, they don't really provide the flexibility I need at most gigs, so the MV amps are my go-to amps for most gigs... With a non-MV head as a backup... ;)
     
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    Like everyone else back in the day, I used cranked Marshall MKII Superleads - that was the ONLY way to get a decent "hard-rock" tone in a live setting... one's options were very limited. (And obviously, those old Marshalls were not designed to be bedroom amps.) These days, I play in a weekend CW/Classic Rock cover band and I still use Marshalls, but now I use small combo-type tube amps WITH master volumes... I have compared the tone I get today with the tone I was getting back then (on recordings from both "eras") and I get BASICALLY THE SAME TONE from those little Marshalls... REALLY! (Too late for my hearing, though - I can still hear those MKII's RINGING in my ears...)
     
  20. Jet Age Eric

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    I had SDG Vintage build me an ab763-type amp with an MV and I think it sounds better than the gorgeous BF VR it was intended to sub for on the road. I think, as with so many things, it depends on the implementation. -E
     

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