Why not mod some cheap made in china pedals?

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by skunizzi, Dec 8, 2016.

  1. skunizzi

    skunizzi Member

    Messages:
    1,040
    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2010
    Hi Guys,

    Like most of you guys, I have a pretty bad addition to effect pedals. I've built a few pedal kits and have purchased boutique and cheap pedals. I've noticed that price doesn't always equal quality.

    I think with some minor tweaks some inexpensive pedals can be made great but it seems not many people are modding the JOYO or DONNER or TONE CITY PEDALS yet? Why not?

    Has anyone here tried it?
     
  2. dshobe

    dshobe Rocky Mountain Way Silver Supporting Member

    Messages:
    4,201
    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2010
    Location:
    Mile High
    IIRC, most of them are SMD.
     
  3. skunizzi

    skunizzi Member

    Messages:
    1,040
    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2010
    Sorry but I don't know what that means...
     
  4. lostpoet2

    lostpoet2 Supporting Member

    Messages:
    3,001
    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2008
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    Surface mounted circuit boards are tiny and basically impossible to work on.
     
    Abram4235 likes this.
  5. dshobe

    dshobe Rocky Mountain Way Silver Supporting Member

    Messages:
    4,201
    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2010
    Location:
    Mile High
    What lostpoet2 said.
     
  6. -Empire

    -Empire Supporting Member

    Messages:
    5,846
    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2016
    Location:
    Las Vegas
  7. Alchemy Audio

    Alchemy Audio Silver Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,552
    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2014
    Location:
    Chicago, IL
    It would be cost prohibitive to attempt this - especially if paying someone to do it. Plus, the risk of damaging the pedal is high - due to the tiny SMD components.
     
    sanfi4u likes this.
  8. skunizzi

    skunizzi Member

    Messages:
    1,040
    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2010
    I get it, but I don't think they all use the same boards and components do they?
     
  9. tedm

    tedm Gold Supporting Member

    Messages:
    7,168
    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2002
    some of these designs may be clones of "boutique" pedals, so if that is the case, then why mod? Unless just changing out with some better parts or housing?

    Also have heard that some boutique pedals are rehoused Joyos, etc., e.g. Alpha drive Freakish Blues was a repackaged Joyo Ultimate drive.
     
  10. Alchemy Audio

    Alchemy Audio Silver Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,552
    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2014
    Location:
    Chicago, IL
    Overwhelmingly, the cheap Asian pedals utilize SMD technology.
     
  11. Auditory Driving

    Auditory Driving Member

    Messages:
    1,309
    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2015
    Location:
    Athens, Greece
    Most of the joyo pedals of the first clone generation are not smd except for the amp sims and the digital pedals.

    I have modded the classic chorus (mix, flange), the vuntage overdrive (distortion, boost, bass add, diodes), the compressor (more squash a la mxr). I also have the tremolo and the british but have not modded those, they did not need anything to be done.

    All these are great pedals and the sound doesn't seem cheap to me. I mostly modded them out of need to fiddle with electronics O:)
     
  12. moemoe6434

    moemoe6434 Member

    Messages:
    1,188
    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2014
    The vertex of this thread was when someone pointed out that it is hard to modify these existing pedals.

    See what I did there?
     
  13. MoonshineMan

    MoonshineMan Member

    Messages:
    5,657
    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2012
    Nobody will stop you.
    I'm not gonna.
     
  14. analogmike

    analogmike Gold Supporting Member

    Messages:
    6,378
    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2004
    Location:
    Connecticut
  15. DaveKS

    DaveKS Member

    Messages:
    16,766
    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2013
    Location:
    KS
    No not all, but most have same SMD characteristics. Look at how small some of these components are as well as how thin the circuit traces are. You go anywhere near any of those traces with a common soldering iron and its toast. It takes a robot with computer controlled accuracy and exactly perfect temp to even assemble one.

    [​IMG]
     
  16. WillLane

    WillLane Member

    Messages:
    1,181
    Joined:
    May 11, 2015
    Location:
    Eastern NC
    What may get you in the similar idea would be to mod clone kits.
     
  17. skunizzi

    skunizzi Member

    Messages:
    1,040
    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2010
    I look up the Joyo Ultimate drive mod and it seems very easy to do. The mods are basically across the tone pots mostly.
     
    108 likes this.
  18. wildschwein

    wildschwein Member

    Messages:
    3,772
    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2008
    Location:
    Alkimos, Western Australia
    Caline are through hole as are Moen and also the Biyang Tone Fanciers.
     
  19. danbond

    danbond Member

    Messages:
    642
    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2015
    Very little reason to even mod those pedals. Bottom-end Joyo/Mooer even Donner and Biyang pedals are insane value for money these days.
     
  20. Help!I'maRock!

    Help!I'maRock! Member

    Messages:
    9,574
    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2008
    Location:
    Capitol City
    [​IMG]
     
    analogmike likes this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice