Why not put a Buffer in the guitar or on the cable?

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  1. AudioWonderland

    AudioWonderland Member

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    They are called " active pickups"
     
  2. Tiny Montgomery

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    I'm surprised nobody had pointed that out, before.
     
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  3. tobereleased

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    The thing that amuses me the most about discussions of buffers vs true bypass is the notion that a player has a lot of pedals that are all bypassed/turned off at any given point of time.

    The bypass method becomes irrelevant when a pedal is on. How many pedals turned off would you normally have in a row on your pedal board in a normal playing situation?
     
  4. Chrome Dinette

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    Cornish built something for Brian May to have at the guitar end. I am foggy on the details. I t might have just been a TB183 attached to the strap. I do seem to remember reading about Cornish building a buffer that fit inside a 1/4" jack, though.

    But yeah, active pickups are one route. It's also not hard to build something that fits in the guitar. The EMG PA2 boost is essentially a buffer with the pot all the way down.
     
  5. Billy Moss

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  6. frankg11

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    i have read exactly two threads today and I am over saturated.

    It started to Watt or not to Watt that is the RMS Peak question?

    The I get:

    To Buffer or not is not to reason why, it's only to do or die!

    I am oversaturated and going into distortion mode now and if this keeps up my wife will be clipping off my sine wave.

    Thank you and time to leave, till tomorrow.
     
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  7. dllb

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    Are these "active pickups" true bypass?
     
  8. dllb

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    Stereo cable carrying 9V from the pedal board.
     
  9. dhdfoster

    dhdfoster Silver Supporting Member

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    Pfffttt...I scoff at buffered cords and buffered guitars. I use buffered strings and even a buffered pick.
     
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  10. AudioWonderland

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    Seriously?
     
  11. facon

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    Didn't Jerry Garcia have guitars with buffers built in?
     
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    jnepo1 Silver Supporting Member

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    Nope. You need a positive and a negative conne ruin to power it.
     
  13. jnepo1

    jnepo1 Silver Supporting Member

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    So, where would you put that then along with the circuitry? A buffer is best at the beginning of the cable, not at the end where it actually meets the board. If you place it at the end, then why would you place it in the cable and not in the board.
     
  14. Prince

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    I like your style.

    I'm thinking of getting plastic surgery to get buffers installed under my finger nails.
     
  15. hipfan

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    I buffered my reply to this thread. Notice how clear and articulate it is?
     
  16. drbob1

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    In the beater Parker Nightfly that I've used for more than a decade, I have a preamp designed by the Spectrum company-it's a little block of epoxy with two knobs for EQ and one for volume. At first I had it on all the time, running a trio of Duncan pickups thru it, but yeah, it does brighten things a bit and doesn't have that "sweetening the tone slightly when you turn down the volume" thing any more. So, now it's on a switch: find myself with sound that's too dull because of cable or pedalboard problems? Turn it on. Don't need it, turn it off.

    Yes, the Alembic guitars Gerry used not only had a buffer after the pickups, but also an onboard effects loop so he could turn the send and return volumes down/up.
    And yes, you can run DC power to a guitar thru a stereo cable, you just use a cap to filter out the audio signal and send that to the rest of the pedalboard, leaving DC just between the preamp and the power supply (call it phantom power, it works find for mics).
     
  17. Tiny Montgomery

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    Yes, I'm positive that was totally serious, and not incredibly obvious sarcasm, at all.:facepalm
    Who is this "Gerry" who played Alembic guitars?

    It was Fil who played Alembics.;)
     
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    I have a Fulltone Wah that comes with a built in buffer and it is the first pedal in my chain so it solves all my cable length problems.
     
  19. GT100

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    Creation Audio effects sells a buffer (same circuit as their boost pedal) that you can easily stuff into your guitar.

    Lloyd
     

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