Why would Jonny Buckland (Coldplay) change from twin reverbs to HR devilles?

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  1. robojim4000

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    Hi, if you watch early coldplay videos JB of coldplay seems to be using 'one of the best clean amps ever', a silverface fender twin reverb. Ever since 2000 he's (and chris martin) been using Hot Rod Devilles - a drop in quality?

    loads of people use these HR Devilles, is it any way better than the twin reverbs?

    im looking for a new amp that will take pedals well. I have a bluesbreaker and tried an ac30 and they didnt react great to pedals. I borrowed a deville, and my ears couldnt fault it, but i feel bad, cos everyone says 'its cheap sounding' and 'nothing compared to xxxxxxx'

    any thoughts?
     
  2. Guitar James

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    There are a lot of people that really rate the HR Devilles clean tones as some of the best out there.
     
  3. robojim4000

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    well from my own experience, i would agree
     
  4. M I K E D.

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    Bluesbreaker= no pedals needed!

    For me those newer fender combos are a great value-great sounding cleans.
     
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    And a lot lighter than a twin!
     
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    I think that I read somewhere that he said that the DeVilles were easier to rent when needed than the Twins. He mentioned getting tired of specifying a Twin and getting one of the red knob versions. It was from a magazine a couple years ago.
     
  7. Zim

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    easier to replace if stolen, or blows up.

    And is one of the best CLEAN tones out there. The od...... well..... It likes pedals, lol.
     
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    HR Deville has one of the best clean tones ever. It has out performed every boutique amp I have A/bd it with other than the Brunos. I kept the HR Deville and sold my 66 Super reverb, and I have made direct blind A/B clips with it and my 65-66 Pro reverb, and the results were pretty much split down the middle as to which one guys thought sounded better. The 65-66 Pro reverb is known as one of the gretest sounding amps ever made by the way. Devilles flat out smoke!
     
  10. Sparky6string

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    Ya they're great sounding amps and easily procured. Also they seem to be kinda trendy with Indie and other genres.
     
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    if anybody has been on a tour here you would understand that availability of rental and getting this replaced in a hr or so if it breaks down would be so important...hey at the end of the day his hands and mind are the tone he just works the tools...gr8 band coldplay
     
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    I have a Hot Rod DLX I don't think the clean tones are not half as good as my 1970 super reverb.
     
  13. bynt

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    Yeah, I've got to say, the clean tones for those really are nice. I'm not so sure I like them super loud with the stock speaker (I never switched out the speaker in mine, I just traded it for a Silverface Twin, coincedintally) but they sound REALLY good and bassy to me stock. I say that because a lot of folks swear by them with a speaker change but I've never heard it personally.

    I could totally see where it would be a benny to play through that though because you can get one anywhere which would be a bonus if one was renting on tour.

    I was surprised the other night when I saw Shooter Jennings as his guitar player had some really high end gear (pedal board all Fulltone and vintage, I believe an R9 [couldn't tell] and the obligatory Telecaster [maybe a 52RI? couldn't tell that either but it was "well used" to say the least]) and his amp? Hot Rod Deluxe. Was really ice picky though, even with the Les Paul.

    My main problem with them is the reliability if you're lugging them around a lot but if you're renting them at every show, big deal.

    I need to listen to more Coldplay, what I've heard I've REALLY liked. Guy's got tone.
     
  14. re-animator

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    on the one hand they have a lot more mid emphasis and a more reactive EQ.


    The twin is a great sound, but its not really a modern clean sound and it doesn't do a lot of different clean and mid-gain sounds.
     
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    Why would anyone assume that the HR DeVille is inferior in cleans? Because it can't be traced back to the 50's or 60's?

    The OD channels are a little problematic, though they work pretty well with me because I use them only very slightly OD'ed...

    But the cleans are great on the amp.
     
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    I agree about the od channel. The gain must be quite low. Set that that, and the channel up, it sounded great.
     
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    maybe he uses 4x10s . . . somewhat diff. beast. . . i also find that the hot rod series to have good control over the grit via the MV function. . . actually, excellent control. forget about the dirt channels. not super-necessary when you are using a nice fuzzy rat. . .
     
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    the cleans are, as mentioned, great on those. the od channel, well, meh. with a jensen P12N the hotrod deluxe sounds WAY better. imo, the best OD is cranking the clean channel with a strat.
     
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    Actually the OD channels are excellently suited for Indie, especially when used with s P90 equipped guitar or Tele.
     
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    i got one of the blues deville 212's when they came out in the early 90's and really regret getting rid of it a few years ago...that amp had some insanely good cleans IMO...but what do i know?
     

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