wizard amps...?

[sabbath90]

can anyone give me some info on wizard amps? i'm kind of intrigued. what do the different models sound like, are they still being made, what kind of pricing, etc?

 

[Distortion]

Do a search.. There are sound clips here on the forum.
Yes they are still being produced, but in a limited capacity.
I have a Modern Classic and it is great sounding..
Pricing is in line with other top line gear..

 

[thegame]

Originally posted by Distortion
Do a search.. There are sound clips here on the forum.
Yes they are still being produced, but in a limited capacity.
I have a Modern Classic and it is great sounding..
Pricing is in line with other top line gear..

What's the specs on your Modern (tubes, wattage)?
I have a 100w 6L6 Modern coming my way this week, and have had several others in the past.

 

[Distortion]

100 watts with 6L6's.. It has the effects loop and line out. I believe it was built in 96.

I am building an obscene flame maple head cabinet for mine and it should be completed in a couple of weeks.
I will post pictures when it is complete.

 

[evhtone]

I'm looking for a Wizard if anyone knows of one for sale. I'm looking for one with EL34's.

 

[Greazygeo]

I have a '93 100 watt Metal with El34's and a '05 100 Watt Modern Classic also with EL34's. Both have tube buffered FX loops and are custom voiced/ modded for me by Rick. Great amps, build quality and ripping tones....

Here's a clip of my Metal.......


Metal clip

George

 

[SQUAREHEAD]

Originally posted by Greazygeo
I have a '93 100 watt Metal with El34's and a '05 100 Watt Modern Classic also with EL34's. Both have tube buffered FX loops and are custom voiced/ modded for me by Rick. Great amps, build quality and ripping tones....

Here's a clip of my Metal.......


Metal clip

George

I gotta hear Gary's Modern Classic when he gwts it, George!
I hear that one clip of yours with both amps and they sound SOOOO close it's scary. I guess I'll have to try Gary's to see which I like more, my 100 watt Metal or the Modern Classic... I'm sure I'll "feel and hear" more diff when I plug into each amp.

Love my Wizard Metal... glad I still have it!
Keith

 

[thegame]

Originally posted by evhtone
I'm looking for a Wizard if anyone knows of one for sale. I'm looking for one with EL34's.

Trust me, there is very little difference between EL34 and 6L6 Wizards. The 6L6 ones are just voiced to sound like EL34s, and they do so remarkably.

 

[SQUAREHEAD]

Originally posted by thegame
Trust me, there is very little difference between EL34 and 6L6 Wizards. The 6L6 ones are just voiced to sound like EL34s, and they do so remarkably.

So....
When's the ETR, Bro???
You must be excited!

Keith

 

[Greazygeo]

Originally posted by SQUAREHEAD
I gotta hear Gary's Modern Classic when he gwts it, George!
I hear that one clip of yours with both amps and they sound SOOOO close it's scary. I guess I'll have to try Gary's to see which I like more, my 100 watt Metal or the Modern Classic... I'm sure I'll "feel and hear" more diff when I plug into each amp.

Love my Wizard Metal... glad I still have it!
Keith

Me too Keith! We'll have to have a Wizard fest one of these days. Between Gary, Jay, you and I would be 6 of them!

You'll "feel" the difference for sure. It has a lot more sag to it, still tight though. Did you happen to catch the video clip of mine a couple weeks ago? That caught the Modern Classic pretty well for a camcorder mic...

George

 

[SQUAREHEAD]

Originally posted by Greazygeo
Me too Keith! We'll have to have a Wizard fest one of these days. Between Gary, Jay, you and I would be 6 of them!

You'll "feel" the difference for sure. It has a lot more sag to it, still tight though. Did you happen to catch the video clip of mine a couple weeks ago? That caught the Modern Classic pretty well for a camcorder mic...

George

I just located that thread now!
I have no sound at work, George, so I'll have a listen when I get home!!!
Keith

 

[SQUAREHEAD]

I have played a lot of amps recently ... trying to "tweak" them close to that tight Wizard feel/tone.
I haven't found one that's even close...
I still want to try the VHT CLX/UL amps. I understand they are pretty darn close??!!


Keith

 

[evhtone]

Originally posted by thegame
Trust me, there is very little difference between EL34 and 6L6 Wizards. The 6L6 ones are just voiced to sound like EL34s, and they do so remarkably.

Ok...welll...um....I guess I'm just looking for a Wizard then.

 

[Greazygeo]

Originally posted by SQUAREHEAD
I just located that thread now!
I have no sound at work, George, so I'll have a listen when I get home!!!
Keith

Its kind of funny as you'll notice

The UL is tight like the Metal and the Modern is similar to the CLX . The difference to me is that vintage quality and midrange snarl of the Wizards, the VHT has the more Modern edge to them.

I still want to get another VHT down the road...the UL is awesome!

 

[thegame]

Originally posted by SQUAREHEAD
So....
When's the ETR, Bro???
You must be excited!

Keith

The guy said it would be shipped on the 10th (yesterday) so I'm still awaiting the tracking #. Yes I'm excited of course!

A little story about getting more gain out of the Wizard. Years ago a friend of mine borrowed my 50 w Modern in the recording studio. I was there and when he cranked it thru his early 70s Marshall cab w/greenbacks set to 4 ohms the amp had oodles of gain! I was shocked! I never heard it sound so gainy since then. Maybe it was a "magic" cab?

 

[Greazygeo]

Originally posted by evhtone
Ok...welll...um....I guess I'm just looking for a Wizard then.

I think you would really dig one! They surface every now and then....I just got a Modern Classic a couple months ago, lucked out on the timing and got a brand new one.

 

[thegame]

Originally posted by SQUAREHEAD
I have played a lot of amps recently ... trying to "tweak" them close to that tight Wizard feel/tone.
I haven't found one that's even close...
I still want to try the VHT CLX/UL amps. I understand they are pretty darn close??!!


Keith

IMO while the VHT and Wizards both have a Hiwatt influence, they're not that close overall. VHT to me is like a modernized, gained up Hiwatt. The Wiz has the classic Marshall ripping midrange that the VHT does not, plus a tad of Hiwatt clarity on the top end. George is right in that the VHT is more modern than the Wizards. The Wizards are still far more organic and earthy than the VHTs IMO. Though the new VHT Deliverance may close the gap a little.

I'd like to hear your thought on the Deliverance George once you try it out.

 

[Greazygeo]

Originally posted by thegame
IMO while the VHT and Wizards both have a Hiwatt influence, they're not that close overall. VHT to me is like a modernized, gained up Hiwatt. The Wiz has the classic Marshall ripping midrange that the VHT does not, plus a tad of Hiwatt clarity on the top end. George is right in that the VHT is more modern than the Wizards. The Wizards are still far more organic and earthy than the VHTs IMO. Though the new VHT Deliverance may close the gap a little.

I'd like to hear your thought on the Deliverance George once you try it out.

Its on its way and should be here Thursday or Friday. I cant wait to try it out!

I'll let you know how it is after i get abit of time with it.

 

[enharmonic]

I had a Modern Classic 50. It broke my heart to sell that one. I now have a Modern Classic 100. I need to tweak the tubes and speakers, but even as it sits it's a killer.

I'd like to get my 50 back if I can ever track it down. I might talk to rick about doing a Wizard-ized JTM-45 too.

 

[SQUAREHEAD]

Originally posted by enharmonic
I had a Modern Classic 50. It broke my heart to sell that one. I now have a Modern Classic 100. I need to tweak the tubes and speakers, but even as it sits it's a killer.

I'd like to get my 50 back if I can ever track it down. I might talk to rick about doing a Wizard-ized JTM-45 too.

Do you find the 100 a lot different from the original 50 you had??
keith