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Would a bandmaster work for a nice blues tone?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by Legendofamind7, Jun 15, 2006.

  1. Legendofamind7

    Legendofamind7 Member

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    I'm thinking about getting a blackface bandmaster...wondering if it would give me a nice blues breakup that I could push with a treble booster into nice lead tones. Then just clean up with my guitars volume knob. With 40 watts I was thinking about getting a custom 3x10 weber cab for it. Volume wise would it be good for small clubs/bars? Thanks for any input.
     
  2. soldano16

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    Most folks would suggest a Fender amp that's tube rectified for more sag in the tone for blues. The Bandmaster is not generally ranked very high in the Fender pecking order - with apologises to those who love theirs.

    My 69 Vibrolux Reverb is a killer blues amp that has that warm Fender breakup at mid volume. A hugely dynamic amp.
     
  3. muddy

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    ahem... my 1st amp was a '59 bandmaster (with the cab), and it did cream/clapton blues tones FOR DAYZ!!! with NO pedal!


    ml
     
  4. karmadave

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    A BF Bandmaster will definitely get you a nice Blues tone! Pedals are optional depending on how loud you can crank it too. A 3x10" cabinet should work very well. These are great amps and one of the bargins still out there in vintage Fender-land IMHO. Of course a Tweed Bandmaster would be awsome, but even the good repros run at least $1,500...

    -KD
     
  5. nickdahl

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    My first real guitar rig included a 63 Bandmaster, which I used as a "preamp," back in 1983. I'll attach a photo:

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    I would plug my guitar into the Bandmaster, and would just about dime everything, except the vibrato knobs. The Bandmaster ran into a Power Soak, then the soaked signal went into the Super Six Reverb head, and out a 2x12 and 4x12. Tube life was very short, and I believe this amp had a tube rectifier, that got replaced by a solidstate one.

    The blues tone was excellent but the amp also excelled at rock tones...the "High 'n Dry" Def Leppard tone was what I was shooting for, at least back then.

    Nick
     
  6. Kiwi

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    A blackface Bandmaster can be made to sing by itself, but it'll take turning it WAY up, with humbuckers. The resulting volume (esp in a 3x10) may not be practical; depends on your small club's definition of loud. The feel of the amp will be pretty stiff. It was designed to stay clean with single-coil guitars of the 1960s.

    One other option in the blackface Fender line:

    Find a blackface Tremolux. Smaller trannies and a bit less power mean power tube saturation at somewhat more workable volume levels.

    You can also run blackface Fender amps with an A/B/Y pedal and make one channel your clean rhythm tone, and crank the other for your lead tone. Neat two-channel amp for $500.

    Both the BF BM and the BF T-lux are bargains in today's vintage amp market.

    Kiwi
     
  7. SteveStrat

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    Bandmasters and any old Fender amp are great for getting a "bluesy" tone. It is true that all those great old Fender amps don't sound the same, thanks to Leo.

    Buy one, and create your own sound.

    Steve
     
  8. joel

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    What's the going price for a BF Tremolux? thnx/jd
     
  9. Kiwi

    Kiwi Silver Supporting Member

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    I got mine this year, very clean, unmodded, for $500 from one of these boards.

    You're in California - local reports suggest prices are higher there, as you guys are wising up to the value of old BF's sooner than the rest of the country... !

    My sources at GC said GC is starting to buy and hoard the blackface amps as the next vintage amp to go up in value. My local GC had a nice BF T-lux for 18 months, wouldn't budge off the $999 tag price. (Well, just for me, they went all the way down to $899.) No thanks. I hit the gear boards, and got one for $500.

    = K
     
  10. Legendofamind7

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    I have a '69 Bandmaster Reverb that definitely does sing the blues and does it well.
     
  12. Han Solo

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    My BF Bandmaster is usually set around 6 on the volume, and it responds to boosters very well. My 12dB boost on my guitar gets it from clean to lead tones, without blowing the house down. Haven't tried a treble-booster.
    I know some people like to swap out the transformer for a Bassman trans. but mine can get very loud stock. I use a closed-back 2X12 with Weber 12F150 speakers. For me it's the perfect amp.
     

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