Would you trade a 70s Marshall for a late 70s Hiwatt Custom100?

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  1. 1973Marshall

    1973Marshall Member

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    Saw this trade proposed in craig's

    wanted opinions
     
  2. haslar

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    I wouldn't, having owned both.
    But it's a matter of taste, really.
    Both are great amps.
     
  3. John Phillips

    John Phillips Member

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    Assuming they're in equivalent condition, yes. The Hiwatt is less common and worth more.

    Of course, also assuming I wanted the Hiwatt sound :). Both sound great, but different.
     
  4. Plague Dog

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    I sound the same no matter what I play, a 5150 or a BF Deluxe, don't matter, so I think I would do it just because the Hiwatt would look so cool sitting on stage...
     
  5. FFTT

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    The Hiwatt is probably more road worthy as far as build quality, but the difference in sound is a matter of personal preference.

    Not sure I would trade, but I'd grab that Hiwatt if you can afford it.
     
  6. Gumby

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    With a name like yours? That's like Mr. Chicken Noodle asking if he should serve clam chowder at his sons wedding. And the answer is yes...clam chowder is more appropriate.

    So, the real question, Mr. Noodle, is do you play Townsend or Page?
     
  7. Griz

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    What he said. :D
     
  8. 1973Marshall

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    lol

    I am one of those players whose tastes change day to day
    I have gone through so much gear in trades etc

    So Page or not, the bigger question, is Gilmour and the whole using it as a clean slate for pedals.

    This video is intriguing as far as cranked tones - http://youtube.com/watch?v=jEVxoniO-uY

    I run my Marshall with a 12AT7 in the PI lately and it sounds SHOCKINGLY SIMILAR! Esp with NOS Teslas. Go figure?

    I have thought of trading out the PTP SLP and getting an RI and something else fun, but so far the only Marshall that has the nasty attitude of the PTP models is the Marshall HW, and even that isn't quite the same. I think if you find a great 70s model and have a good tech look at it, it can sound great. I wonder about having a tech trick out an RI???? hmmmmmm. I tried a couple of Germinos, and I do like them, but they are NOT as identical to 68's, 69's, and 73's I have played.

    Here is a GP review http://youtube.com/watch?v=n5xPfhFb7AM&mode=related&search=
     
  9. EuroCool

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    Please, don't do it.
     
  10. BluesForDan

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    is the Hiwatt owner only interested in a trade? Can you buy it from him?

    I'd have both if I could.
     
  11. enharmonic

    enharmonic Old Growth Gold Supporting Member

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    I would, but I'm more of a Hiwatt guy at heart than a Marshall guy.

    That said, I do love a good Marhsall. Ultimately, I'd still probably choose the Hiwatt. Harry Joyce was the man.
     
  12. 1973Marshall

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    What does that mean?

    That Hiwatts are more plentiful now? who is giving up more? Me, by trading a Marshall for a Hiwatt.

    BTW, my screen name is just a name - had to choose one... lol. My Marshall far from defines me considering I have gigged with a Shiva and Princeton for the past few months.
     
  13. John Phillips

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    Actually it's about equal. Yes, the Hiwatt is PTP and the Marshall is PCB, but the PCB never causes trouble on these Marshalls. (Pots and jacks are chassis-mounted, and there's nothing on the PCB except the bias caps that ever fails normally.)

    The weaknesses of the Marshall are the impedance and voltage selectors - the Hiwatt's, although also pull-out, are much higher quality. The Marshall's are junk and need bypassing or replacing.

    The weaknesses of the Hiwatt are the screen resistors which are cheap carbon comps and do fail.... the Marshall's 5W ceramic wirewounds never do (or at least, I've never seen one), and to a small extent the transformer mounting bolts - unlike the Marshall, they're not reinforced with extra brackets, and can break.

    Replace the Marshall's selectors and the Hiwatt's screen resistors with better components, and they're both about as bombproof as it gets.
     
  14. 1973Marshall

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    Well, actually my MARSHALL IS PTP

    Either way, I think you guys have convinced me if I get the funds (which I do NOT have), then get a Hiwatt ALONG WITH the Marshall, but do NOT trade the Marshall.

    Anyways, if I get a Hiwatt, i'd need to pony up a for a Fane cab, no? Or do they sound good with V30s or GB's?
     
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    HIWATTs sound OK with V30's bu will destroy GB's pretty quick.
     
  16. jgyn

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    That's what I'd do. I have both a Super Lead and DR103, both PTP.
     
  17. Gumby

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    cool post. I can't wait to find out what happens.
     
  18. FFTT

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    Fanes are pretty much the way to go IF you want that classic sound, however
    I would also talk to Weber about their Thames model speakers.
     
  19. Teh RedWizard

    Teh RedWizard Supporting Member

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    Get a Reeves cabinet with the Vintage Purples.You could always pick up a HIWATT badge to stick on it later if you're concerned about cosmetics.
     
  20. John Phillips

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    Ah, sorry, I thought we were talking about late-70s amps...

    Do you mean the actual 1973 Marshall in your name? :)

    In which case I would have to modify the original advice: the Marshall is probably worth more than the Hiwatt. But everything else the same... there's no reliability advantage of PTP over PCB Marshalls in this period.
     

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