Wren and Cuff Box of War vs Sovtek Bubble Font Green Muff

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TGP ! Here is the query

For about the same money locally ( 2-3 bills) I can either get an original green russian bubble font Big Muff or ... a Wren and Cuff Box of War.

In either scenario I do not get to try the pedals, I have gone through countless youtube videos, all of them sound different due to compression etc ... etc ...

What do TGP ?
 

Orwells Ghost

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I vote Box of War. Those Sovteks sound great, but the build quality and bypass are awful. The Wren and Cuff sounds every bit as good, is more consistent, and is built like a tank.
 

chankgeez

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I vote Box of War. Those Sovteks sound great, but the build quality and bypass are awful. The Wren and Cuff sounds every bit as good, is more consistent, and is built like a tank.

This.

I'd say the Box of War is a far safer bet for something that you don't get to try out first.
 

dwk302

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Personally, I'd go Sovtek. Noise isn't an issue if you use a copper/non-alkaline battery. While not true bypass, I also don't notice much if any tone coloring from my bubble font. The Sovteks have a certain punch that I haven't heard from any clone.
 

jdel77

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Box of War.
W&C nailed it.
Way better construction and reliability.
Plus it kills with your guitar's volume knob rolled back too.
 

mike361

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When I was looking for a sovtek or a clone, I decided to get the real deal. I figured if I didn't, I would always wonder if the other pedal is as good as the real deal. I can say that the green Russian I have has been great and I don't notice any tone change without the bypass. I do run buffered pedals after it so they might compensate. It is a great pedal and can be gritty or smooth sounding. I also like to run my tube driver in front of it to give it clarity and it boost the mids a bit. Together they sound huge into a good clean tube amp.
 

drbob1

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Actually, I'd say it comes down to bragging rights…

If owning the original is important to you, if you're going to be able to snuggle down to bed at night saying "I've got the real deal", if you want to make money on it when you sell it… buy the EHX.

If reliability and customer support are more important, but the W&C, it's a killer pedal by a great company.

Soundwise, you won't notice much difference at all (unless the EH is not a healthy pedal).
 

ungarn

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Other options include building a kit from general guitar gadgets if you are handy.

Had original Green Russian...but preferred my EQD Hoof tones so sold it for big $$$...
 

Lolaviola

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Actually, I'd say it comes down to bragging rights…

If owning the original is important to you, if you're going to be able to snuggle down to bed at night saying "I've got the real deal", if you want to make money on it when you sell it… buy the EHX.

If reliability and customer support are more important, but the W&C, it's a killer pedal by a great company.

Soundwise, you won't notice much difference at all (unless the EH is not a healthy pedal).

This.

The Big Muff is curiously mojo-free, meaning, that if the circuit is followed, it gives you that sound. There is very little in Magic Parts that you could potentially be missing out on by buying a good clone. I tried to take my Sovtek apart once. I wish I had that hour of my life back.
 



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